[swift-evolution] [swift-build-dev] [Review] SE-0085: Package Manager Command Names

Dan Appel dan.appel00 at gmail.com
Tue May 10 13:22:07 CDT 2016

I have been using SPM both in speech and in text since it's usually very
clear what I'm talking about from context. It's also more familiar to me as
someone who has previously used npm (though the argument "do it because
other people are doing it" is really a terrible one). I'm not terribly
against SwiftPM, but I don't really see a reason for the extra

On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:53 AM Matthew Johnson <matthew at anandabits.com>

> Sent from my iPad
> On May 10, 2016, at 11:38 AM, Rick Ballard <rballard at apple.com> wrote:
> On May 10, 2016, at 8:49 AM, Matthew Johnson via swift-build-dev <
> swift-build-dev at swift.org> wrote:
> On May 10, 2016, at 2:19 AM, Dan Appel via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> +1 to `swift package` being a little too verbose. However, I like the
> alternative `swift pm`/`swiftpm` (as noted in the proposal) even less. I
> have already been referring to the package manager as SPM, so IMO that name
> does not lose out on any clarity while also allowing it to be terse enough
> for every day use.
> I would not be against having both `spm` and `swift package` as Honza
> suggested.
> + 1 to the proposal in general and also to adding the `spm` alias.
> Question for those of you who are advocating for a "spm" alias: Do you
> have a strong argument / preference for "spm" vs "swiftpm"? Personally I
> have been abbreviating the project as "swiftpm" and not "spm" when I talk
> about it, and have been trying to push that as the preferred abbreviation.
> "spm" is a few less keystrokes, but is a much more generic, less googleable
> name; out of context, it's impossible to know what it refers to. Once the
> project gets enough mindshare, like "npm" has, that might be less of an
> issue, but I still personally prefer the more descriptive "swiftpm".
> Thoughts?
> I prefer spm.  Given the sponsorship by Apple I think mindshare is a
> matter of time.  That said, I wouldn't oppose swiftpm either if that has
> more support.
> - Rick
> --
Dan Appel
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