[swift-users] "business applications market" flame

Dave Fenton sirdavidfenton at gmail.com
Wed Jan 6 18:59:53 CST 2016

So far it seems to me that Swift is a powerful "c" type language that can also be used in a script-like way. Definitely a win.  

Hopefully as version 3 gets closer there will have emerged some useful pure swift modules for DB access (Oracle, SQL Server/MongoDB etc)  as well as other middleware.  I'm expecting that IBM will have some good involvement here.


> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:45 PM, Dru Satori via swift-users <swift-users at swift.org> wrote:
> I would argue that the language syntax is forgiving though, as my follow examples demonstrated.
> The funny thing, is that your point about minutes versus hours is the very reason BASIC came to be ( easier math language ). But I think to a degree, we are discussing semantics. It seems we agree on the principle, that Swift is good, but it isn’t there as general purpose business dev language. :)
> From: Jens Alfke <jens at mooseyard.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 6, 2016 at 7:40 PM
> To: Andy Satori <dru at druware.com>
> Cc: Don Wills <don.wills at portablesoftware.com>, Donald Pinckney <djpinckney at ucdavis.edu>, "swift-users at swift.org" <swift-users at swift.org>
> Subject: Re: [swift-users] "business applications market" flame
>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 4:27 PM, Dru Satori <dru at druware.com> wrote:
>> The thing that I see about Swift is that right now, today, on Linux or OS X, if Swift is installed, I can open a terminal: 
>> Touch hello.swift
>> vim hello.swift
>> i 
>> print("Hello Swift");
>> Esc
>> :wq
>> swift hello.swift
> You can do that with C too:
> touch hello.c
> vim hello.c
> i
> #include <stdio.h>
> int main() {printf(“Hello World!”); return 0;}
> Esc
> :wq
> cc hello.c && ./a.out
> Does that make C a scripting language? :)
> Having a REPL or playgrounds doesn’t really change what the language itself is; it just indicates good integration of the compiler into the development tools.
> To me, what defines a scripting language is a forgiving syntax that lets you bang stuff out fast without worrying about types, and super high level libraries for doing file and text manipulation and running other processes. By contrast, even if  I had a C REPL and playgrounds, it would still be a pain to use C to process a directory full of text files and transform their contents and pass that to another tool. Whereas I could do it in minutes with Ruby or bash.
> —Jens
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