[swift-evolution] [Discussion] mailing list alternative

Austin Zheng austinzheng at gmail.com
Thu Jan 26 13:40:08 CST 2017

If you're not going to make the barest attempt to respond to my emails with
the slightest modicum of good faith I'm finished with this conversation.
Have fun!


On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Charles Srstka <cocoadev at charlessoft.com>

> For a tiny but massively important part of Apple on which they’re
> essentially betting the entire future of the company? Yeah, I think the
> world’s richest Fortune 500 company can afford to allocate the resources
> for a web forum.
> Charles
> On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Austin Zheng <austinzheng at gmail.com> wrote:
> Apple having billions of dollars, and the Swift team as a tiny part of
> Apple with associated resource allocations, are two completely different
> things. Please don't be obtuse.
> Best,
> Austin
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Charles Srstka <cocoadev at charlessoft.com
> > wrote:
>> On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Austin Zheng via swift-evolution <
>> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> I don't like mailing lists in particular (or, really, at all), but I
>> haven't yet seen a good answer to the question: who is going to put in the
>> long-term commitment to host and maintain a replacement solution, moderate
>> forums, make technical upgrades and backups, and perform all the other
>> maintenance and administrative work it takes to properly run a system like
>> Discourse, a web forum, or even a bug tracker. I suspect that any such
>> solution is going to require an additional commitment since 1). we will no
>> longer be able to leverage shared mailing-list infrastructure that is run
>> by people outside the Swift team, 2). it's pretty much a given IMO that any
>> solution which encourages richer and easier interaction is going to require
>> additional community curation.
>> Are we really arguing that Apple, the most valuable corporation in the
>> world, does not have the resources to host a web forum?
>> Charles
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