<div dir="ltr">If you're not going to make the barest attempt to respond to my emails with the slightest modicum of good faith I'm finished with this conversation. Have fun!<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Austin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:37 AM, Charles Srstka <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cocoadev@charlessoft.com" target="_blank">cocoadev@charlessoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>For a tiny but massively important part of Apple on which they’re essentially betting the entire future of the company? Yeah, I think the world’s richest Fortune 500 company can afford to allocate the resources for a web forum.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Charles</div></font></span><div><div class="h5"><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jan 26, 2017, at 1:30 PM, Austin Zheng <<a href="mailto:austinzheng@gmail.com" target="_blank">austinzheng@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-3709392112297258961Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">Apple having billions of dollars, and the Swift team as a tiny part of Apple with associated resource allocations, are two completely different things. Please don't be obtuse.<div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Austin</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Charles Srstka <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:cocoadev@charlessoft.com" target="_blank">cocoadev@charlessoft.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span><blockquote type="cite">On Jan 26, 2017, at 12:54 PM, Austin Zheng via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote><div><blockquote type="cite"><br class="m_-3709392112297258961m_5831592614019056270Apple-interchange-newline"><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">I don't like mailing lists in particular (or, really, at all), but I haven't yet seen a good answer to the question: who is going to put in the long-term commitment to host and maintain a replacement solution, moderate forums, make technical upgrades and backups, and perform all the other maintenance and administrative work it takes to properly run a system like Discourse, a web forum, or even a bug tracker. I suspect that any such solution is going to require an additional commitment since 1). we will no longer be able to leverage shared mailing-list infrastructure that is run by people outside the Swift team, 2). it's pretty much a given IMO that any solution which encourages richer and easier interaction is going to require additional community curation.</span></div></blockquote></div><br></span><div>Are we really arguing that Apple, the most valuable corporation in the world, does not have the resources to host a web forum?</div><span class="m_-3709392112297258961HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Charles</div><div><br></div></font></span></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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