chris at chrismatic.io
Tue Dec 15 01:46:15 CST 2015
On Dec 15, 2015, at 12:25 AM, Jacob Bandes-Storch via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 9:44 PM, Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com> wrote:
> On Dec 14, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> Another point that hasn't come up so far: inclusivity.
> Quoting the Code of Conduct section from https://swift.org/community/:
> A diverse and friendly community will have more great ideas, more unique
>> perspectives, and produce more great code. We will work diligently to make
>> the Swift community welcoming to everyone.
> I think making the discussion groups more easily accessible, and
> indexable/searchable, would do a great deal towards this goal. We should
> strive to include people who don't live in their email clients, and even
> people who want to contribute anonymously.
> (Clearly, there are enough people who *do* want to use email that it's
> important to make sure any proposed solution has good support for email
> I don’t understand this argument. Email is a pervasive standard, mailman
> provides an index, and gmane provides an even better one. How would a web
> app be “more inclusive" than using something that has been standard for "a
> long time” and has tons of tools that work with it?
I'm speculating here, and hopefully not just putting my foot in my mouth.
I'm not aware of what actual research has been done regarding diversity &
online communities — if someone is, please chime in. If I'm totally wrong,
There are a couple things I'd guess are beneficial:
- Easier signup; easier anonymity (authentication provided by a number of
common external services; no need for exposing an email address)
For what it's worth, I think having an email address being sufficient
vastly lowers the friction of getting involved.
The idea of "yet another account" (or pseudo-account) with yet another,
separate interface for checking and keeping up with communication just
seems like extra cumber in my opinion, and I humbly fail to conceive of any
reason it'd make anyone's life easier.
- Better support for moderation (you can't take back emails)
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