[swift-users] Swift and Xcode along with Playgrounds is full of bugs

Shyamal Chandra shyamalc at gmail.com
Tue Sep 13 21:24:34 CDT 2016

Hi Shawn,

Could you give me examples of what I said was clearly "unprofessional"?
Two months for a bug because open source is "do it yourself".  This sounds
like a crappy support team by a large multinational company that open
sources non-functional Linux ports of its language.  I gave clear examples
and bugs so I don't understand why you are getting defensive and hammering
me with the "unprofessional" word.  First, address the issues and the bugs;
I gave you clear examples and you circumvent those issues and flag the post
because you don't want to confront that the tooling is buggy and flaky.

I believe that a company of Apple's stature is unprofessional when they
deliver buggy code to their customers that they pay money for.  Before you
respond to this message, please address the bugs that I hyperlinked and the
forum question problem.  You are wasting my time.



Shyamal Chandra
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On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 9:16 PM, Shawn Erickson <shawnce at gmail.com> wrote:

> You message are really coming across with an unprofessional tone. I
> understand you are frustrated but folks inside and outside of Apple have
> been working their butts off and frankly deserve a little more civility.
> Anyway, the Linux side of things is very much an open source - do it
> yourself - type of thing at this time. I am sure folks would love to have
> the issues and short coming addressed but need folks to step forward.
> If you would like to talk specifics about swift issues you are having a
> fair number of folks are on this list and possibly could help.
> Also note Apple folks are likely a little burned out right now with all of
> the crazy work closing out - as best they could - on Swift 3 and Xcode 8,
> etc. so they may not be the quickest to respond.
> -Shawn
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 6:53 PM Shyamal Chandra via swift-users <
> swift-users at swift.org> wrote:
>> I am not arguing; I am bringing up defect in the Apple way of handling
>> bugs for Swift, Xcode, and Playgrounds.  Am I supposed to wait for eternity?
>> On Tuesday, September 13, 2016, Jens Alfke <jens at mooseyard.com> wrote:
>>> On Sep 13, 2016, at 6:27 PM, Shyamal Chandra <shyamalc at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Do you really think that is a viable option again?
>>> No, you’re right. Reporting bugs is clearly the least viable option,
>>> except for all the other options* (like arguing on mailing lists.)
>>> —Jens
>>> * With apologies to Winston Churchill
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