[swift-users] Swift and Xcode along with Playgrounds is full of bugs

Shyamal Chandra shyamalc at gmail.com
Tue Sep 13 20:27:56 CDT 2016

I posted an error with ubuntu running on swift.org and it is currently
medium priority and still hasn't been fixed by an "open source" team member
and it has been more than two months.

Here is the error:

Do you really think that is a viable option again?

On Tuesday, September 13, 2016, Jens Alfke <jens at mooseyard.com
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jens at mooseyard.com');>> wrote:

> On Sep 13, 2016, at 5:34 PM, Shyamal Chandra via swift-users <
> swift-users at swift.org> wrote:
> Here is a forum question that I posted a while back.  The latest post says
> to file a bug under the bug report.  I have had mixed success with the bug
> reporter tool from Apple; most of the time, they ask for the system
> diagnostics and then, tell you to update your version.  Sometimes, they
> just close the issue and nothing happens.
> Apple’s bug-reporting process is not the greatest, I agree. Most of that
> is a side effect of how secretive and opaque Apple is: you can’t see bugs
> anyone else has filed, and once you file a bug you can’t see what’s going
> on internally, and if it gets marked as a dup you can’t see the progress of
> the bug it was duped against.
> Fortunately Swift is now open source and has its own more open bug tracker
> at bugs.swift.org.
> I was doing something "simple" in Playgrounds and my version of
> Playgrounds doesn't function properly because it is emitting an error when
> I write bug-free code.  Why is Playgrounds so flaky?
> Now you’re talking about Xcode, not about Swift itself. Everyone has a
> love/hate relationship with Xcode (even inside Apple; I used to work
> there.) It’s a hugely complex app with a thousand competing demands it has
> to fulfill. Some parts of it suck. Generally they get better over time. The
> Swift support —  and playgrounds in particular — still seem pretty rough. I
> still spend most of my time with Obj-C and C++, and whenever I do Swift
> development it feels like I’m using a different, much less stable IDE! I
> imagine it still needs more time to mature.
> I don’t know if this mailing list is the best place to discuss Xcode
> issues, even ones related to Swift. Apple has an xcode-users mailing list
> at http://lists.apple.com . It’s a good quality list that I’ve been on
> for years.
> —Jens

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