[swift-evolution] [Pitch] Move All Discussions To Github Issues

Mohamed Ebrahim Afifi mohamede1945 at gmail.com
Mon May 1 12:13:09 CDT 2017

Very nice! Thank you!

Best Regards,
Mohamed Afifi

On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Muse M <james.lei65 at gmail.com> wrote:

> All of your points have been discussed and some of us will prefer
> Discourse to generate mailing format. I remember there is an option for "Mailing
> List mode" in Discourse.
> You can trace from this discussion and there were a long separate threads
> few months back which you can trace manually.
> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/
> Week-of-Mon-20170206/031657.html
> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Mohamed Ebrahim Afifi via swift-evolution
> <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> Thanks for your reply! I think that is very good news that the burden of
>> the mailing list is so obvious for everyone!
>> I think Github issues would be better though, the community is used to it
>> and it makes more sense as it needs almost no configurations, no operation
>> costs or maintenance. If the community decided to move to it we can move to
>> it immediately, we don't need to wait. It is a natural next step since the
>> proposals are maintained there and Swift itself is maintained there.
>> Do you have a link to that discussion?
>> Best Regards,
>> Mohamed Afifi
>> On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Adrian Zubarev <
>> adrian.zubarev at devandartist.com> wrote:
>>> Hi there,
>>> you’re a bit too late. A forum will come at some point (Discourse).
>>> Best regards,
>>> --
>>> Adrian Zubarev
>>> Sent with Airmail
>>> Am 1. Mai 2017 um 13:30:55, Mohamed Ebrahim Afifi via swift-evolution (
>>> swift-evolution at swift.org) schrieb:
>>> Hi,
>>> This is actually not a proposal to improve Swift, it is actually a
>>> proposal to improve the way we use it to improve Swift. :)
>>> It is extremely hard to monitor discussions going over e-mails.
>>>    1. I always get lost between e-mails especially if there are so many
>>>    replies
>>>    2. It is extremely hard to reach the original idea/first e-mail.
>>>    3. New people (like me) usually get lost between e-mails and only
>>>    focus on their own idea and don't care about other's ideas because for
>>>    example, I don't know how to reply to an idea if I'm not subscribed to the
>>>    mailing list. In other words, It’s not a system that encourages follow-up
>>>    actions.
>>>    4. You can not browse subjects and all replies in one place.
>>>    5. You cannot follow a specific topic and ignore others.
>>> That was the problem!
>>> My suggestion is to move all discussions from this mailing list to
>>> GitHub issues. For the following reasons.
>>>    1. Easier to browse all topics.
>>>    2. You can see open topics and closed topics. So, if a topic is done
>>>    we can close it.
>>>    3. You can subscribe to a topic and follow all replies and reply.
>>>    4. Markdown support. Currently, I see people create a markdown page
>>>    on Github and send a link to it on the mailing list. But having the
>>>    markdown inline in the topic is a great benefit. Also, replies can be in
>>>    markdown as well.
>>>    5. It's closer to Proposals (Since we already using Github for
>>>    tracking proposals why don't we use it also to track pitching ideas).
>>>    People like to have everything gathered together in one place and don't
>>>    need to remember the Github repo and mailing list.
>>>    6. Github has https://developer.github.com/v3/issues/
>>> I think using Github issues instead of the mailing lists will increase
>>> the engagement of the Swift community with proposals.
>>> Best Regards,
>>> Mohamed Afifi
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