<div dir="ltr">Very nice! Thank you!</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Best Regards,<div>Mohamed Afifi</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Muse M <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james.lei65@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.lei65@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">All of your points have been discussed and some of us will prefer Discourse to generate mailing format. I remember there is an option for "<span style="font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Mailing List mode" in Discourse.</span><div><br><div>You can trace from this discussion and there were a long separate threads few months back which you can trace manually.</div><div><a href="https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20170206/031657.html" target="_blank">https://lists.swift.org/<wbr>pipermail/swift-evolution/<wbr>Week-of-Mon-20170206/031657.<wbr>html</a><br></div></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Mohamed Ebrahim Afifi via swift-evolution <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Thanks for your reply! I think that is very good news that the burden of the mailing list is so obvious for everyone!<div><br><div>I think Github issues would be better though, the community is used to it and it makes more sense as it needs almost no configurations, no operation costs or maintenance. If the community decided to move to it we can move to it immediately, we don't need to wait. It is a natural next step since the proposals are maintained there and Swift itself is maintained there.</div><div> </div><div><br><div>Do you have a link to that discussion?</div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_-6488499395386184322m_1045947456436331581gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Best Regards,<div>Mohamed Afifi</div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div class="m_-6488499395386184322h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 1, 2017 at 1:33 PM, Adrian Zubarev <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com" target="_blank">adrian.zubarev@devandartist.c<wbr>om</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div class="m_-6488499395386184322m_1045947456436331581m_2182193386819180307bloop_markdown"><p>Hi there,</p>
<p>you’re a bit too late. A forum will come at some point (Discourse).</p>
<p>Best regards,</p>
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<div>Hi,</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>This is actually not a proposal to improve Swift, it is
actually a proposal to improve the way we use it to improve Swift.
:)</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>It is extremely hard to monitor discussions going over
e-mails.</div>
<div>
<ol>
<li>I always get lost between e-mails especially if there are so
many replies</li>
<li>It is extremely hard to reach the original idea/first
e-mail.<br></li>
<li>New people (like me) usually get lost between e-mails and only
focus on their own idea and don't care about other's ideas because
for example, I don't know how to reply to an idea if I'm not
subscribed to the mailing list. In other words, It’s not a system
that encourages follow-up actions.</li>
<li>You can not browse subjects and all replies in one place.</li>
<li>You cannot follow a specific topic and ignore others.</li>
</ol>
<div>That was the problem! </div>
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div>My suggestion is to move all discussions from this
mailing list to GitHub issues. For the following
reasons.</div>
<div>
<ol>
<li>Easier to browse all topics.</li>
<li>You can see open topics and closed topics. So, if a topic is
done we can close it.</li>
<li>You can subscribe to a topic and follow all replies and
reply. </li>
<li>Markdown support. Currently, I see people create a markdown
page on Github and send a link to it on the mailing list. But
having the markdown inline in the topic is a great benefit. Also,
replies can be in markdown as well.</li>
<li>It's closer to Proposals (Since we already using Github for
tracking proposals why don't we use it also to track pitching
ideas). People like to have everything gathered together in one
place and don't need to remember the Github repo and mailing
list.</li>
<li>Github has <a href="https://developer.github.com/v3/issues/" target="_blank">https://developer.github.c<wbr>om/v3/issues/</a> </li>
</ol>
<div><br></div>
</div>
<div>I think using Github issues instead of the mailing lists will
increase the engagement of the Swift community with
proposals.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Best Regards,
<div>Mohamed Afifi</div>
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