[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0159: Fix Private Access Levels

Dominik Pich dominik at pich.info
Wed Mar 22 15:28:45 CDT 2017


Very much in favour of this
 - access modifiers in swift became way to confusing.. and the usefulness is limited. Keep it simple I say. THAT benefits swift the most in the long run

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Dominik

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> On 22 Mar 2017, at 21:20, David Beck via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> 
> What is your evaluation of the proposal?
> Definitely in favor of this. About halfway through the Swift 3 migration I gave up trying to think through where to use fileprivate and where to use private and just did a project level find and replace to use fileprivate everywhere. So far over the last year I haven't found a case where I want to use private instead of fileprivate. The one time I thought it came up, when I looked at it again I realized I really should be using 2 files anyway.
> 
> Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?
> Maybe. It certainly would remove confusion.
> 
> Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?
> Yes.
> 
> If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?
> I don't think I've ever seen a language distinguish private and fileprivate. It seems like all other languages choose one behavior or the other, and stick with it. Adding fileprivate seemed like Swift's attempt to make everyone happy, when it wasn't needed.
> 
> How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?
> Read through the proposal.
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> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 4:54 PM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
> Hello Swift community,
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> The review of SE-0159 "Fix Private Access Levels" begins now and runs through March 27, 2017. The proposal is available here:
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> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0159-fix-private-access-levels.md <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0159-fix-private-access-levels.md>
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> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0159-fix-private-access-levels.md <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0159-fix-private-access-levels.md>
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