[swift-evolution] [Discussion] mailing list alternative

Xiaodi Wu xiaodi.wu at gmail.com
Mon Feb 6 17:43:00 CST 2017


Agree strongly.

It is true, however, that a major pain point of the mailing list format is
that it is not apparent how to join an ongoing thread unless you are
already subscribed to the list. Thus, an occasional contributor must choose
between subscribing and setting up dedicated filters for Swift mailing
lists or be content only to initiate new conversations. If we could only
overcome that issue, it'd be a huge step forward.
On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 17:24 Daniel Duan via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

> On Feb 6, 2017, at 3:02 PM, Chris Hanson via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
> On Feb 2, 2017, at 2:24 PM, James Berry via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
>
> Speaking for myself only, discourse seems to give me little of value,
> while it would plaster emails with html-laden buttons, etc, thus making my
> favored experience worse than it is today. I’m fairly happy with using a
> gmail account and server-side filters to file my swift-evolution mails into
> a mailbox that I can then read on or offline with the threaded email client
> of my choice.
>
>
> This is my feeling as well. I also looked at the so-called “native app”
> for Discourse and it looked like just a wrapper around the web site. It
> wasn’t nearly the level of experience that I get from a high quality mail
> client like Mail.app or GMail.
>
> I would be all for a forum-like web interface to the mailing list for
> people who find mailing lists somehow lacking or who have difficulty
> configuring filters. However, I would be opposed in the strongest possible
> terms to anything that makes the mailing list interface any sort of
> second-class citizen, which is definitely what it appears switching to
> something like Discourse would do.
>
>
> With regard to threading:
>
> I’d encourage those who want web forums to give Mail.app a try. It does a
> remarkable job of keeping emails threaded. (incidentally, I’ve tried a few
> 3rd party email clients, the usual suspects with both iOS and macOS
> support, and find them *worse* at handling mailing list style email
> chains). There’s even more flexibility in the reading experience with
> things like Mutt where everything is customizable.
>
> Overall, I feel like the maturity of email tooling is not emphasized
> enough here.
>
>   -- Chris
>   -- who would also be opposed to using something like HipChat/Slack over
> IRC
>
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