[swift-evolution] [META] Gmane and Swift Evolution
erica at ericasadun.com
Sun Jul 31 18:00:00 CDT 2016
>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 15:42, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>>> On Jul 31, 2016, at 3:40 PM, Erica Sadun via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>>> Gmane.org <http://gmane.org/> is shutting down. http://ostatic.com/blog/mint-18-xfce-imminent-gmane-org-shutting-down <http://ostatic.com/blog/mint-18-xfce-imminent-gmane-org-shutting-down> writes:
>>>> "Long time mailing list archive site Gmane.org <http://gmane.org/> is shutting down. Gmane has been the home for technical mailing list references since 2002. But it's no longer fun for founder and only maintainer Lars Ingebrigtsen. He's been sued in India and threatened with legal action in at least France, among other annoyances. The straw that broke Ingebrigtsen's back was a sustained denial of service <https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/> attack throughout the month of July. He's been wondering a lot lately if it's all worth it. So, he's decided <https://lars.ingebrigtsen.no/2016/07/28/the-end-of-gmane/comment-page-1/#comment-13502> to move the mail and news servers to new hosting. However, Ingebrigtsen is indeed discontinuing the web-based archive. He said he's just "fed up." He's willing to send a disk with the web server archives to anyone who wants to take it over. But with the Gmane.org <http://gmane.org/> web presence gone, it feels like the end of an era. There is much wailing and gnashing of teeth throughout the community with some even trying to get a petition started."
>>> Because of this shutdown, numerous documents in the Swift Evolution github archive no longer point to valid web links. I have pasted a list of gmane links at the end of this message. As gmane's "robots.txt" disallowed crawling, Google has not preserved the titles or text of the links, which makes finding some of these a little tricky.
>>> Here are the remaining links that are not yet converted. Please consider adopting a proposal, tracking down its links, and mailing this thread with the proposal number, gmane links and pipermail equivalents. Pipermail is located at https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/ <https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/>. Some of these may refer to build dev discussions instead of evolution ones. If you can, please track down to the exact message for rationale, and the thread for discussion and review links.
>> Completely agreed. All of these should point to https://lists.swift.org <https://lists.swift.org/> (and always should have, exactly for reasons like this). I’d appreciate any PRs to help clean up the evolution repo to point to https://lists.swift.org <https://lists.swift.org/> instead.
> On Jul 31, 2016, at 4:51 PM, Saagar Jha <saagarjha28 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I’d be happy to help. I see 94 instances of “gmane", do we want to split it up (since I see Erica is on it already)?
> Saagar Jha
If you start from the end (most recent proposals) and work backwards, it will be a lot easier for me. Thanks! -- E
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