[swift-evolution] [Swift4] Priorities and Sugar

Daniel Duan daniel at duan.org
Fri Jul 29 20:14:10 CDT 2016


> On Jul 29, 2016, at 5:59 PM, Brandon Knope via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> 
> Where can we learn what affects the ABI? (Google, yes, but is there a highly respected document or article?)
> 

This is a really good question, if we expect lots of discussion on this list relating to ABIs, some organized, introductory material would be really helpful. I’d start with https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/ABI.rst <https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/ABI.rst>. 

> Unless it's just something I'm not really familiar with, it might be helpful to detail what kind of changes would affect the ABI. 
> 
> Brandon
> 
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 8:38 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>>> On Jul 29, 2016, at 5:29 PM, Magnus Ahltorp <map at kth.se <mailto:map at kth.se>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 30 Jul 2016 02:17 Chris Lattner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Moving into early Swift 4 planning and development, we have no desires beyond what I listed in the big email.  There is no long laundry list, it is a few specific (big!) topics.
>>>> 
>>>> We specifically do not want a surge of proposals.
>>> 
>>> Is it appropriate to discuss high-level topics that are not one of the topics on your list? Example: Decreasing the number of cases where unsafe constructs have to be used.
>>> 
>>> If it is not, how do topics get on the list?
>> 
>> If a topic is related to source or ABI compatibility, it is fair game for discussion.  We don’t want to widen the doors beyond this, because that is already a huge set of very important topics.
>> 
>> -Chris
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