[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0122: Use colons for subscript declarations
Jose Cheyo Jimenez
cheyo at masters3d.com
Wed Jul 20 12:47:12 CDT 2016
> On Jul 20, 2016, at 10:36 AM, Leonardo Pessoa <me at lmpessoa.com> wrote:
>
> I like this syntax better. But do you guys think we could remove this
> "subscript" prefix?
I like the subscripts to be explicit.
> Could we actually bring subscripts closer to
> computed properties by doing something like "var self[externaName
> internalName : ParamType] : ElemenType"? That could also support the
> idea of creating named subscripts by replacing self with another name.
:) I can already see how this could turn swift into Objc.
I don’t think I like that idea. ;( People already abuse subscripts as it is.
> L
>
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> On 20 July 2016 at 14:17, Jose Cheyo Jimenez via swift-evolution
> <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2016, at 7:51 AM, Vladimir.S via swift-evolution
>> <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>
>> +1 to clean up the syntax of subscripts. They acts as properties, not
>> methods, so it is natural to express them with `:` and not with `->`.
>>
>> Actually, I'd prefer additional change to use [] instead of () in
>> declaration like:
>>
>> subscript[externalName internalName: ParamType] : ElementType {
>> get { … }
>> set { … }
>> }
>>
>>
>> I got to second this suggestion. To me this is an elegant solution.
>>
>> If subscripts are so special that Swift decided to give it its own name (as
>> oppose to just making it two functions),
>> why not declare it in a special way like the above?
>>
>> I think that in addition to replacing -> with : if we replaced () with []
>> then it would be much clearer that this is not a function or property.
>>
>> subscript[externalName internalName: ParamType] : ElementType {
>> get { … }
>> set { … }
>> }
>>
>>
>> I don’t see another place in the language where [] would make more sense
>> than here:
>> Otherwise I don’t see replacing -> with : as a big win like Dmitri Gribenko
>> said down thread ->
>>
>> I think by changing subscripts to use colons we would end in the opposite,
>> but
>> totally symmetrical situation compared to what we have now.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> especially if thinking about "Future directions" and confusion with
>> parameterised accessor syntax(both declared with `()` but first used with
>> `[]` and second with `()`).
>>
>> On 20.07.2016 8:50, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution wrote:
>>
>> Hello Swift community,
>>
>> The review of "SE-0122: Use colons for subscript declarations " begins now
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>>
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