[swift-evolution] [swift-evolution-announce] [Review #2] SE-0117: Default classes to be non-subclassable publicly

Juan Laube juanlaube at fastmail.com
Mon Jul 18 21:50:36 CDT 2016


> * What is your evaluation of the proposal?

-1, I really think this a step in the wrong direction.
I recognise the problem around this, and why something is needed. However, I don’t like the idea of restricting things by default. In the attempt to solve a problem, we will create more problems by introducing more workarounds to replace what now is being overridden.


> * Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?


No. I think the defaults should not be changed, but restricting subclassing (and overriding) should be opt-in.


> * Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?

No. I think this kind of restrictions make Swift worst.


> * If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?

This is the opposite of how other languages solves this kind of restrictions.


> * How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?

I read in-depth the updated proposal and most of the discussion.



> On Jul 16, 2016, at 2:52 AM, Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello Swift community,
> 
> The second review of "SE-0117: Default classes to be non-subclassable publicly" begins now and runs through July 22. The proposal is available here:
> 
> 	https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0117-non-public-subclassable-by-default.md
> 
> Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews should be sent to the swift-evolution mailing list at
> 
> 	https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
> 
> or, if you would like to keep your feedback private, directly to the review manager.
> 
> What goes into a review?
> 
> The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review through constructive criticism and contribute to the direction of Swift. When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to answer in your review:
> 
> 	* What is your evaluation of the proposal?
> 	* Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?
> 	* Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?
> 	* If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?
> 	* How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?
> 
> More information about the Swift evolution process is available at
> 
> 	https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> -Chris Lattner
> Review Manager
> 
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