[swift-evolution] [Pitch] Retiring `where` from for-in loops

let var go letvargo at gmail.com
Mon Jun 13 11:02:32 CDT 2016


I sincerely apologize for singling people out. I will avoid it in the
future. I can see how it might personalize things in a way that is bad. I
appreciate you pointing out my mistake :)

On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 8:54 AM Erica Sadun <erica at ericasadun.com> wrote:

>
> On Jun 13, 2016, at 9:44 AM, let var go via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
> I think we must be reading different discussions.
>
> What I have seen in this discussion is the following:
>
> a) The need to filter a for-in loop doesn't arise that often; but,
> b) When it does arise, everyone who has chimed in on this thread (except
> the two people who are proposing the change) thinks that the "where" clause
> is the clearest, most expressive way to do it.
>
>
> As a point of order, may I request you stop singling out "the two people
> who are proposing the change" and discuss the merits of the pitch rather
> than the people involved in the discussion. Details of the Swift community
> code of conduct can be found here:
> https://swift.org/community/#code-of-conduct
>
> As syntactic sugar, the filtering syntax is rarely used, hard to discover,
> and elevates one style (continue if false) above others (continue if false,
> break if true, break if false), which are not expressible using similar
> shorthand. It introduces a fluent style that discourages design comments at
> the point of use and can be difficult to breakpoint during debugging. The
> recommended alternative (using a separate guard) addresses all these
> points: better commenting, better breakpointing and debugging, and fully
> covers the domain of filtering and early exiting.
>
> In response, I'd like to hear why "continue if false" should be
> prioritized above the other options and should be retained, or
> alternatively why the suite should be completed (as in the original
> discussion with "while") in preference to the advantages accrued by guard.
>
> Thank you,
>
> -- Erica
>
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