[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0091: Improving operator requirements in protocols

plx plxswift at icloud.com
Wed May 18 18:07:03 CDT 2016

Mixed; there are very good ideas here but combined in IMHO some questionably-strict ways. I understand that starting small and extending later is preferable, and I understand the Swift 3 situation.

In favor of these: 
- allowing static methods to have “operator names”
- deprecating operator requirements in protocols
- providing default operator definitions as trampolines to the static methods

It’s really not clear to me if this is anything more than just:

- adding the ability to give (static/class) methods operator names
- removing the ability for protocols to declare operators
- make all operator implementations “explicit"…
- ...but providing “protocol operators” generically (e.g. via suitable “trampolines”)

…if that’s all there is to this, I’m ok with it for now, but have a suggestion:

I’d *prefer* there be an explicit annotation, e.g. to straw-man it a bit, something like one of these:

  @trampolined static func +(lhs: Self, rhs: Self) -> Self
  @trampolined(operator) static func +(lhs: Self, rhs: Self) -> Self

…which for now would just produce a compiler warning if no corresponding operator function is defined, but could someday be used to trigger trampoline synthesis.

The reason I request explicit syntax for this is b/c it seems *highly* likely that a subsequent enhancement will be to allow a similar mechanism to specify functions like `abs` and `sin` should be similarly trampolined (in their case into free functions); it’d be nice to have a common mechanism for them now, even if their implementation is to be deferred. 

That said, it’d *concern me* if this proposal somehow planned to enforce that “operators” *always* call through to the operator-named function; it ought to be possible to e.g. define operators like so:

  protocol AngularCoordinateProtocol {

    associatedtype Rotation: RotationProtocol

    static func rotated(angle angle: Self, by rotation: Self.Rotation) -> Self


  func +<A:AngularCoordinateProtocol>(lhs: A, rhs: A.Rotation) -> A { return A.rotated(angle: lhs, by: rhs) }
  func -<A:AngularCoordinateProtocol>(lhs: A, rhs: A.Rotation) -> A { return A.rotated(angle: lhs, by: -rhs) }

…and it seems like this proposal wouldn’t preclude that, but I’m not 100% I understand it on that point. 

Also, I can’t say I’m a fan of having the prefix/postfix handled by argument labels.

How hard would it be to e.g. simply allow something like this:

  func ==<T:Equatable>(lhs: T, rhs: T) -> Bool {
    return lhs T.== rhs

…instead of the `T.==(lhs,rhs)` syntax?

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