[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0088: Modernize libdispatch for Swift 3 naming conventions

Dan Appel dan.appel00 at gmail.com
Thu May 12 03:39:32 CDT 2016


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Ok, I have mixed feeling about this proposal.

First, this is a huge breaking change, and it doesn’t really have to be one. The current SPM convention is to prefix C libraries with Lib. Following this convention, Dispatch (which is the C version) would be renamed to LibDispatch, and this new wrapper library would be called just Dispatch. With this setup, the old C api would still be there (under the module LibDispatch), which makes migration much easier. In the proposal, this issue is not addressed at all and it even says that all code using libdispatch would be affected. As it stands, that is not ok.

On a different issue in this proposal: I think that translating the C api into Swift ‘automagically’ is the wrong approach. There are many libraries right now that wrap the current libdispatch functions and provide a similar api, and I don’t think there’s any reason why this shouldn’t be done the same way. I would also argue that doing this links the Swift language to libdispatch in a way that isn’t necessary. For example, there is a library called Venice <https://github.com/VeniceX/Venice> which provides CSP (go-style concurrency) for Swift by wrapping a fork of the C library libmill, and it doesn’t do any magic importing of any sort. I don’t see a reason why libdispatch shouldn’t take the same approach.

Overall, I think the idea is good but some of the details are really lacking. As it stands, I would vote to reject this proposal and request revision, or reject it outright and suggest to use third-party wrappers around libdispatch (like the community is already doing).

Dan Appel
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