[swift-evolution] [Review] SE-0065 A New Model for Collections and Indices

Dave Abrahams dabrahams at apple.com
Mon Apr 11 15:02:15 CDT 2016


on Mon Apr 11 2016, Stephen Canon <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

> Joe’s isn’t saying that “Indexes” is more common, rather that it’s regular (i.e.
> follows the usual declension rule for plurals); there’s tradeoffs each way, but
> using the regular plural might make it more familiar for some non-native
> speakers/readers.

Indexes also has the disadvantage of being a verb as well as a plural noun.

>
>
> – Steve
>
>     On Apr 11, 2016, at 9:42 AM, Trent Nadeau via swift-evolution
>     <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
>     I disagree. According to both http://grammarist.com/usage/indexes-indices/
>     and http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-ind2.htm, "indices" is more common
>     in the English-speaking world (outside of parts of America and Canada) as
>     well as in technical contexts.
>
>     On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Joe Groff via swift-evolution
>     <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
>     I love irregular plurals as much as the next grammar nerd, but I think it'd
>         be better to use the more regular, but still correct, plural "indexes"
>         rather than "indices".
>
>         -Joe
>
>         > On Apr 10, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Chris Lattner via swift-evolution
>         <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>         >
>         > Hello Swift community,
>         >
>         > The review of "A New Model for Collections and Indices" begins now and
>         runs through April 18th. The proposal is available here:
>         >
>         >
>         https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0065-collections-move-indices.md
>
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