[swift-evolution] Mailman?

[Jacob Bandes-Storch]

Friendly bump:

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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:51 AM, James Campbell via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

> Also if someone forget's to reply all then their discussion is lost to the
> wider community ;)
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Rainer Brockerhoff via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
>> On 12/15/15 09:50, swift-evolution-request at swift.org wrote:
>> > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:44:49 -0800
>> > From: Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com>
>> > To: Jacob Bandes-Storch <jtbandes at gmail.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [swift-evolution] Mailman?
>> > Message-ID: <B1869941-D495-4F41-9E4A-C71B6D9BB9A9 at apple.com>
>> >
>> >>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch via
>> >>> swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>> >>> Another point that hasn't come up so far: inclusivity. I think
>> >>> making the discussion groups more easily accessible, and
>> >>> indexable/searchable, would do a great deal towards this goal.
>> >>> We should strive to include people who don't live in their email
>> >>> clients, and even people who want to contribute anonymously.
>> >>> (Clearly, there are enough people who *do* want to use email
>> >>> that it's important to make sure any proposed solution has good
>> >>> support for email notifications.)
>> >
>> > I don’t understand this argument.  Email is a pervasive standard,
>> > mailman provides an index, and gmane provides an even better one.
>> > How would a web app be “more inclusive" than using something that has
>> > been standard for "a long time” and has tons of tools that work with
>> > it?
>>
>> I'd like to point out that for a list like swift-evolution even the
>> digest traffic is relatively large; I see 3-5 digests every day.
>>
>> While subscribing to the non-digest version would really be much more in
>> terms of messages, the fundamental positive aspect is that everything is
>> stored and readable off-line.
>>
>> The (to me, huge) downside of the existing (and old) swift forums is
>> that you depend on constant connectivity and even have to check the
>> index page every day, or more, to make sure you don't miss some
>> important discussion. (I suppose that also applies to subscribing on
>> github, which I've never tried.)
>>
>> The downside of Mailman seems to be the difficulty of threading when
>> responding to a digest (I'm now trying to include the MessageID in the
>> quote, maybe that works?) as well as the unwieldy mixture of top- and
>> bottom-quoting and endless requoting of the mailing list footer.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --
>> Rainer Brockerhoff  <rainer at brockerhoff.net>
>> Belo Horizonte, Brazil
>> "In the affairs of others even fools are wise
>> In their own business even sages err."
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