[swift-evolution] Proposal: Add .times method to Integer type

[Cihat Gündüz]

I agree with Radek. I find `for i in 5 { doSomething() }` or `for 5 { doSomething() }` to be very confusing since it is neither close to human language nor to any common programming language I know of.

I like the idea of giving students a step by step introduction into things, but this is IMO not the right way/place to do that.

– Cihat


> Am 18.12.2015 um 22:26 schrieb Radosław Pietruszewski via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org>:
> 
>> An obvious question is, should it be equivalent to 1...n, or 0..<n?
> 
> I think that’s exactly why this isn’t a good idea. The semantics of `for i in 5` are not immediately clear at all.
> 
> If this was to be a language feature, `repeat 5`, suggested by Chris, seems like the least-ambiguous choice.
> 
> — Radek
> 
>> On 18 Dec 2015, at 22:09, Jacob Bandes-Storch via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> This can be done pretty easily, although I think the approach has the potential to cause confusion elsewhere in code. An obvious question is, should it be equivalent to 1...n, or 0..<n?
>> 
>> extension Int: SequenceType {
>>     public func generate() -> RangeGenerator<Int> {
>>         return (0..<self).generate()
>>     }
>> }
>> 
>> for i in 5 {
>>     print("hello \(i)")
>> }
>> 
>> Jacob Bandes-Storch
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Brent Royal-Gordon via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>> wrote:
>> > I’d like to propose an addition of a useful method, especially for beginners that also makes Swift much more readable in some situations: The addition of a .times method to Integer type(s).
>> 
>> I’ve said it before, but I don’t think `times` is a good solution for learners. It teaches them a form of looping they will never use in practice and does not allow them to practice with ancillary loop skills like `break` and `continue`.
>> 
>> I think our best bet is to extend the `for` loop to allow a single number, meaning either `1…n` or `0..<n` (you can argue it either way), and also to allow the `variableName in` part to be omitted, meaning `_ in`. This gives us the pedagogical simplicity of a “do this N times” loop, but couches it in a form where, when the student moves on, more commonly used loop forms are a straightforward extension of that simple case.
>> 
>>         for 5 { print(“Hello!”) }
>>         for i in 5 { print(“Hello \(i)!”) }
>>         for i in 10..<20 { print(“Hello \(i)!”) }
>>         for i in 10...20 { print(“Hello \(i)!”) }
>> 
>> --
>> Brent Royal-Gordon
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>> 
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