[swift-evolution] [Review] Require self for accessing instance members

[T.J. Usiyan]

Creating that summary seems like it would be a large burden to place on
whoever manages the review. I don't think that that is worth the effort
when the responses *are* readily available.

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Nick Shelley via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:

> All of the prior swift-evolution commentary on this proposal (which is
>> nearing the 100-message mark) will also be considered, of course!
>
>
> It is my opinion that the proposal should encapsulate as much of that
> discussion as possible so every reviewer doesn't have to read every comment
> in that thread. The current proposal is wildly one-sided and seems to only
> reflect the opinion of its author and those who agree with the proposal. I
> created a Pull Request (https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/pull/59,
> still not merged and no comments as to why) to more fairly represent the
> single counter-argument pointed out in the proposal, but others in the
> mailing list expressed concern that none of the other downsides of the
> proposal are represented at all.
>
> Is my (and others') desire to have the proposal contain an accurate
> representation of the main points of the community discussion off base? Is
> the main purpose of the proposal to be a sales pitch for an idea, even if
> it includes building up and tearing down straw-man versions of the
> arguments brought forth by the opposition? I'm asking with sincere
> curiosity because I can't seem to find a good description of the purpose of
> the proposal in my research of how the evolution process works.
>
> Thanks in advance for clarifying these points for me.
>
> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 11:58 AM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <
> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>
>> All of the prior swift-evolution commentary on this proposal (which is
>> nearing the 100-message mark) will also be considered, of course!
>>
>> - Doug
>>
>> On Dec 16, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Douglas Gregor via swift-evolution <
>> swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Swift community,
>>
>> The review of “Require self for accessing instance members” begins now
>> and runs through Sunday, December 20th. The proposal is available here:
>>
>>
>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0009-require-self-for-accessing-instance-members.md
>>
>> Reviews are an important part of the Swift evolution process. All reviews
>> should be sent to the swift-evolution mailing list at
>>
>> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
>>
>> or, if you would like to keep your feedback private, directly to the
>> review manager.
>>
>> What goes into a review?
>>
>> The goal of the review process is to improve the proposal under review
>> through constructive criticism and, eventually, determine the direction of
>> Swift. When writing your review, here are some questions you might want to
>> answer in your review:
>>
>> * What is your evaluation of the proposal?
>> * Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change
>> to Swift?
>> * Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?
>> * If you have you used other languages or libraries with a similar
>> feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?
>> * How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick
>> reading, or an in-depth study?
>>
>> More information about the Swift evolution process is available at
>>
>> https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Doug Gregor
>> Review Manager
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