james at supmenow.com
Wed Dec 16 10:51:13 CST 2015
Also if someone forget's to reply all then their discussion is lost to the
wider community ;)
On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:01 PM, Rainer Brockerhoff via swift-evolution <
swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> On 12/15/15 09:50, swift-evolution-request at swift.org wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2015 21:44:49 -0800
> > From: Chris Lattner <clattner at apple.com>
> > To: Jacob Bandes-Storch <jtbandes at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [swift-evolution] Mailman?
> > Message-ID: <B1869941-D495-4F41-9E4A-C71B6D9BB9A9 at apple.com>
> >>> On Dec 14, 2015, at 2:08 PM, Jacob Bandes-Storch via
> >>> swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> >>> Another point that hasn't come up so far: inclusivity. I think
> >>> making the discussion groups more easily accessible, and
> >>> indexable/searchable, would do a great deal towards this goal.
> >>> We should strive to include people who don't live in their email
> >>> clients, and even people who want to contribute anonymously.
> >>> (Clearly, there are enough people who *do* want to use email
> >>> that it's important to make sure any proposed solution has good
> >>> support for email notifications.)
> > I don’t understand this argument. Email is a pervasive standard,
> > mailman provides an index, and gmane provides an even better one.
> > How would a web app be “more inclusive" than using something that has
> > been standard for "a long time” and has tons of tools that work with
> > it?
> I'd like to point out that for a list like swift-evolution even the
> digest traffic is relatively large; I see 3-5 digests every day.
> While subscribing to the non-digest version would really be much more in
> terms of messages, the fundamental positive aspect is that everything is
> stored and readable off-line.
> The (to me, huge) downside of the existing (and old) swift forums is
> that you depend on constant connectivity and even have to check the
> index page every day, or more, to make sure you don't miss some
> important discussion. (I suppose that also applies to subscribing on
> github, which I've never tried.)
> The downside of Mailman seems to be the difficulty of threading when
> responding to a digest (I'm now trying to include the MessageID in the
> quote, maybe that works?) as well as the unwieldy mixture of top- and
> bottom-quoting and endless requoting of the mailing list footer.
> Rainer Brockerhoff <rainer at brockerhoff.net>
> Belo Horizonte, Brazil
> "In the affairs of others even fools are wise
> In their own business even sages err."
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