[swift-evolution] C-style For Loops

Don Wills don.wills at portablesoftware.com
Sun Dec 6 10:03:23 CST 2015

I too hope that the proposal to remove C-style loops is rejected.  Yes, they aren't that necessary any more, but if we want Swift to compete with Java, C#, C++ and C, there is no reason to remove basic features like C-style loops just because they are politically incorrect.  If there was a functional reason, I might get on board with removing it, but there isn't.

I also hope that the decision to remove increment and decrement operators is reversed using the same logic.  Just because *you* don't like something that has been a feature of dozens of programming languages for 40 years doesn't mean removing that feature is a good idea.  One man's goto statement is another man's Leatherman multi-tool.  And FWIW, if C-style loops stay in the language, they become much more ugly without increment and decrement.

Don Wills

> On Dec 6, 2015, at 8:33 AM, inbox only via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org> wrote:
> True,even that a feature isn't used doesn't mean that you need to remove that feature.
> I hope that the proposal will be rejected.
> 2015-12-06 12:03 GMT+02:00 Clemens Wagner via swift-evolution <swift-evolution at swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution at swift.org>>:
> > We’ve developed a number of Swift apps for various clients over the past year and have not needed C style for loops either.
> But I think this is a very weak reason for *removing* any portion like C-loops and increment or decrement operators of a programming language. How about the developers and the productive code which used C-style loops already?
> I understand the reasons why you, Erica and the others don’t like C-style loops. But changing the philosophy of a productive programming language is a very bad idea.
> Cheers
> Clemens
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