[swift-evolution] C-style For Loops

ChanMaxthon xcvista at me.com
Thu Dec 3 23:47:32 CST 2015


How about this C code when rewritten in Swift:

char *blk_xor(char *dst, const char *src, size_t len)
{
  const char *sp = src;
  for (char *dp = dst; sp - src < len; sp++, dp++)
    *dp ^= *sp;
  return dst;
}

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> On Dec 4, 2015, at 13:35, Sean Heber <sean at fifthace.com> wrote:
> 
> I found a couple of cases of them in my codebase, but they were trivially transformed into “proper” Swift-style for loops that look better anyway. If it were a vote, I’d vote for eliminating C-style.
> 
> l8r
> Sean
> 
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Every time I've tried to use a C-style for loop, I've ended up switching to a while loop because my iteration variable ended up having the wrong type (e.g. having an optional type when the value must be non-optional for the body to execute). The Postmates codebase contains no instances of C-style for loops in Swift.
>> 
>> -Kevin Ballard
>> 
>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 04:50 PM, Eric Chamberlain wrote:
>>> We’ve developed a number of Swift apps for various clients over the past year and have not needed C style for loops either.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Eric Chamberlain, Lead Architect - iOS
>>> ArcTouch - App Development Studio
>>> 
>>> Custom apps for world-class brands and the Fortune 500
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andy Matuschak <andy at andymatuschak.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Just checked; ditto Khan Academy.
>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Keith Smiley <keithbsmiley at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For what it's worth we don't have a single C style for loop in the Lyft
>>>>> codebase.
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Keith Smiley
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 12/03, Douglas Gregor wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Erica Sadun <erica at ericasadun.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Does Swift still needs C-style for loops with conditions and incrementers? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <Screen Shot 2015-12-03 at 4.30.15 PM.png>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> More Swift-like construction is already available with for-in-statements and stride. 
>>>>>>> This would naturally starve the most common point for -- and ++ operators as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> My intuition *completely* agrees that Swift no longer needs C-style for loops. We have richer, better-structured looping and functional algorithms. That said, one bit of data I’d like to see is how often C-style for loops are actually used in Swift. It’s something a quick crawl through Swift sources on GitHub could establish. If the feature feels anachronistic and is rarely used, it’s a good candidate for removal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> - Doug
>>>>> 
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