[swift-evolution] C-style For Loops

Sean Heber sean at fifthace.com
Thu Dec 3 23:35:31 CST 2015


I found a couple of cases of them in my codebase, but they were trivially transformed into “proper” Swift-style for loops that look better anyway. If it were a vote, I’d vote for eliminating C-style.

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Sean


> On Dec 3, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Kevin Ballard <kevin at sb.org> wrote:
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> Every time I've tried to use a C-style for loop, I've ended up switching to a while loop because my iteration variable ended up having the wrong type (e.g. having an optional type when the value must be non-optional for the body to execute). The Postmates codebase contains no instances of C-style for loops in Swift.
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> -Kevin Ballard
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> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015, at 04:50 PM, Eric Chamberlain wrote:
>> We’ve developed a number of Swift apps for various clients over the past year and have not needed C style for loops either.
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>>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 3:46 PM, Andy Matuschak <andy at andymatuschak.org> wrote:
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>>> Just checked; ditto Khan Academy.
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>>>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 3:43 PM, Keith Smiley <keithbsmiley at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> For what it's worth we don't have a single C style for loop in the Lyft
>>>> codebase.
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>>>> Keith Smiley
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>>>> On 12/03, Douglas Gregor wrote:
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>>>>>> On Dec 3, 2015, at 3:32 PM, Erica Sadun <erica at ericasadun.com> wrote:
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>>>>>> Does Swift still needs C-style for loops with conditions and incrementers? 
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>>>>>> <Screen Shot 2015-12-03 at 4.30.15 PM.png>
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>>>>>> More Swift-like construction is already available with for-in-statements and stride. 
>>>>>> This would naturally starve the most common point for -- and ++ operators as well.
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>>>>> My intuition *completely* agrees that Swift no longer needs C-style for loops. We have richer, better-structured looping and functional algorithms. That said, one bit of data I’d like to see is how often C-style for loops are actually used in Swift. It’s something a quick crawl through Swift sources on GitHub could establish. If the feature feels anachronistic and is rarely used, it’s a good candidate for removal.
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