<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Itai,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I tried copying JSONEncoder.swift from the swift repo and implementing the `Unevaluated` type in it. It doesn’t appear to be a workable solution due to the fact that the `KeyedEncodingContainer` type erasure box is the only value returned from `container(keyedBy:)`. This means that any extra methods implemented inside `JSONDecoder` (or `_JSONDecoder` in this case) can ever be publicly accessed (even with casting) unless the type erasure box also includes an equivalent method.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">How do you propose getting around this? Seems like the design of this might be a bit limiting when considering extension/enhancement in user specific code.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:47 PM, Itai Ferber <<a href="mailto:iferber@apple.com" class="">iferber@apple.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Kevin,<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jun 29, 2017, at 12:30 PM, Kevin Wooten via swift-users <<a href="mailto:swift-users@swift.org" class="">swift-users@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class="">Hi Jon,
I just joined this mailing list and have tried to catch up on the
history of this thread, so please excuse me if I’ve missed something.
I’m sorry the Codable API at the moment does not answer your needs —
you’re clearly not the only one who’s run into this, so let’s see
how we can work together to make the API better for everyone.
For one thing, in the case of grabbing a subtree of JSON as
"unevaluated" or "unmapped" (as it appears to be in the metadata case),
it should be fairly simple to add a `JSONDecoder.UnevaluatedJSON` type
that will allow you to essentially decode that part of the tree as an
`Any`. `JSONDecoder` would have knowledge of this type and would be able
to return the subtree inside of it — you’d decode a property as
`JSONDecoder.UnevaluatedJSON.self` and access the contents through `var
value: Any?`, or something similar. This would be simple additive API,
which although might not make it in the upcoming betas, should be fairly
simple introduce. Would this solve that use case?
We’re also working on improving `NSISO8601DateFormatter`. I don’t
think I saw it in any of your emails — what specific use case are you
looking for that it doesn’t at the moment support?
— Itai
</pre></blockquote></div><div class=""><pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><br class=""></pre></div>Itai, <br class=""><br class="">Is this a formal solution that is going to be implemented? This would solve just about every issue I currently have with Decodable.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class="">I can’t make any promises at the moment — we’ve got a lot of high-priority things to fix before the Swift 4.0 release. However, this is something I’d certainly like to put through API review and eventually release, since this is clearly something that would be beneficial to a lot of our users.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Two points…<br class=""><br class="">1) Putting it on `JSONDecoder` seems dubious since you’d only have access to `Decoder` (although conditional casting could solve that). It seems adding the method to `Decoder` and using `Decoder.Unevaluated.self` as the requested type, would be more useful. A user could then conditionally cast that value to things like `[String: Any]` and possibly use its contents generically.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div class="">Putting that on <font face="SFMono-Regular" class="">Decoder</font> would require all <font face="SFMono-Regular" class="">Decoder</font><font face="SFHello-Regular" class="">s to have an "unevaluated type" representation, which may not be appropriate for all formats.</font></div><div class=""><font face="SFHello-Regular" class="">Since this is very often a request when working with 3rd-party APIs which you don’t control (and are rarely offered in more than one format, if that), putting this directly on </font><font face="SFMono-Regular" class="">JSONDecoder</font><font face="SFHello-Regular" class=""> seems reasonable — you’d only really expect this representation if you’re decoding from JSON; if you’re encoding to/from a different format, you’re likely in control of the data in those formats.</font></div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">2) Matching it with an equivalent on `Encoder` would be great as well. We take in JSON that has “metaData” like one aforementioned exampled. We then have to send back the equivalent metadata during a subsequent update; without ever inspecting or altering the unevaluated data. Being able encode a `Decoder.Unevaluated` would solve that problem as well.</div></div></blockquote><div class="">Yes, we’d add an equivalent type on encode as well.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-users mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-users@swift.org" class="">swift-users@swift.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-users" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-users</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>