<html><body><div id="edo-message"><div>Happy dance! ππΊπ<style>#edo-signature img {max-width: 90%}</style><div id="edo-signature" style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue','Helvetica',Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font:'-apple-system-body';"></div></div><div><br></div><div>I've said before that I think this a good move. Hopefully it encourages more ad-hoc contributions - e.g. Unicode experts who have suggestions for the String model, Perl developers with suggestions for pattern-matching, systems architects with suggestions for the memory model, etc. That's what open-source is all about, IMO. Maybe somebody they know notices the discussion - with this they'll have a convenient interface to get up to speed, follow the discussion and chime in with their experience. I don't know if that will _actually_ happen or how many such developers there are, but <span style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">by lowering the barrier to participation </span><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">we're doing as much as we can do to encourage them.</span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">So yeah, thanks a lot!</span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: transparent; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">- Karl</span></div></div><div id="edo-original"><div><br><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:1ex 0 0 0;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:0.5ex;"><div>On Feb 9, 2017 at 12:03 am, <<a href="mailto:swift-users@swift.org">Ted kremenek via swift-users</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><pre>Hi everyone,<br><br>There was a long thread on swift-evolution about whether we should use modern forum software β like Discourse β as an alternative to the mailing lists we have now. After a long discussion, the Core Team has decided to move swift-evolution and swift-users to Discourse.<br><br>There are tradeoffs to moving to a forum. The main advantages are:<br><br>- Easy for people to participate without subscribing to the entire mailing list, as well as no need to provide email address to participate. A lot of people have voiced concern that they feel resistance to participate because of needing to subscribe to a mailing list.<br><br>- Consistent affordances and rendering of content, including Markdown support. This is really useful for having technical discussions.<br><br>- Better searching of topics, archiving, etc.<br><br>- More tools for moderation.<br><br>- Topic cross-referencing, and consistent organization of topics instead of whatever threading support a mail client provides (which is inconsistent).<br><br>I also want to consider moving the -dev lists to the same forum setup as well; but that will be a separate conversation on those lists.<br><br>A rollout plan has not been figured out. People are busy and there are logistics to figure out. I will be engaging a handful of members from the community to help with the transition. Specifically, there are those who really value using email for participation on swift-evolution and swift-users, and the goal is to get the forum setup to allow those people to continue to feel effective when using email for discussions on these "lists".<br><br>More details will be announced as they get figured out, but I felt it was important to let the community know about this direction.<br><br>Ted<br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>swift-users mailing list<br>swift-users@swift.org<br>https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-users<br></pre></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>