<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 9 Feb 2017, at 13:50, Adrian Zubarev <<a href="mailto:adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com" class="">adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="bloop_markdown" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);"><p style="margin: 15px 0px; -webkit-margin-before: 0px;" class="">That last one is horrible to even look at (that’s my personal point of view). It’s packed full with unnecessary UI, which reminds me of the time when html-tables ruled all over the place. Discourse has a nice minimalistic look and I’m sure people that will setup the forum will tweak it to make it feel more appropriate for Swift, just like the design of the evolution-page was tweaked several times.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p></div></div></blockquote>I don’t see unnecessary UI, I see NEEDED UI. Discourse is so minimalistic you don’t see any relevant information at all 8(</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="bloop_markdown" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);"><p style="margin: 15px 0px;" class="">Here is really good example of how a huge/popular topic like the current one or<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><code style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, 'Liberation Mono', Courier, monospace; font-size: 10pt; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248); color: inherit; border: 1px solid rgb(234, 234, 234); margin: 0px 2px; padding: 0px 5px; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; -webkit-margin-before: 0px;" class="">String in Swift 4</code><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>would look like with Discourse (I picked one from Rust with lots of replies):<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://users.rust-lang.org/t/high-order-function-with-type-parameter/3112/" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;" class="">https://users.rust-lang.org/t/high-order-function-with-type-parameter/3112/</a></p><p style="margin: 15px 0px;" class="">+1 for Discourse, I think it really is the right choice.</p></div></div></blockquote></div>What is good at this example? I don’t see anything good there but lots of problems:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">- very hard to see who posted a reply</div><div class="">- very bad readability thanks to tiny font and low contrast colors</div><div class="">- totally broken threading (is one really supposed to click each time on replies to see them?)</div><div class="">- lots of wasted screen space (empty space and a very narrow text area)</div><div class="">- cryptic stuff like this <a href="https://www.dropbox.com/s/6a9fyuin4yyp5u8/Screenshot 2017-02-09 14.03.20.png?dl=0" class="">https://www.dropbox.com/s/6a9fyuin4yyp5u8/Screenshot%202017-02-09%2014.03.20.png?dl=0</a></div><div class="">- endless scrolling…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">This is considered GOOD today? Does any modern web trend think on older people and people with glasses anymore?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jan</div></body></html>