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<p></p></div><div class="bloop_original_html"><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1484758085666739968" class="bloop_sign"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px">-- <br>Adrian Zubarev<br>Sent with Airmail</div></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">Am 18. Januar 2017 um 17:45:10, Shawn Erickson (<a href="mailto:shawnce@gmail.com">shawnce@gmail.com</a>) schrieb:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div><div></div><div>
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<div>Yeah I am fairly sure that is by design. A lot of swifts
access controls are about getting you up and going with little work
/ boilerplate while internal to your model while requiring you to
be explicit about what you want to expose publicly outside of your
module.</div>
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<div class="gmail_msg">On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 8:40 AM Adrian
Zubarev via swift-users <<a href="mailto:swift-users@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-users@swift.org</a>>
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<p class="gmail_msg">I feel like I’ve seen this discussion
somewhere on the mailing list before. If I remember correctly or it
could be only me, this behavior is by design, because you don’t
want to open your API implicitly to everyone. Internally it won’t
hurt your module, but only allow you to write less code and use the
type right away.</p>
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<p class="gmail_msg">It might be your intention of using this
<code class="gmail_msg">init(firstName:lastName)</code> only
internally, but disallow the module user from being able to
construct that type manually. (The current behavior.)</p>
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<p class="gmail_msg">Please feel free to correct me if I’m wrong
here ;)</p>
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Am 18. Januar 2017 um 16:33:22, Dave Reed via swift-users (<a href="mailto:swift-users@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-users@swift.org</a>) schrieb:</p>
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<div class="gmail_msg"><span class="gmail_msg">I’m teaching an iOS
with Swift this semester and one of my students pointed out
that:<br class="gmail_msg">
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struct Person {<br class="gmail_msg">
var firstName: String<br class="gmail_msg">
var lastName: String<br class="gmail_msg">
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does create a default initializer that you can call as:<br class="gmail_msg">
p = Person(firstName: “Dave”, lastName: “Reed”)<br class="gmail_msg">
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but if you write:<br class="gmail_msg">
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public struct Person {<br class="gmail_msg">
var firstName: String<br class="gmail_msg">
var lastName: String<br class="gmail_msg">
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The default initializer is still internal so if you want it to be
public, you have to write it yourself (i.e.)<br class="gmail_msg">
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public struct Person {<br class="gmail_msg">
var firstName: String<br class="gmail_msg">
var lastName: String<br class="gmail_msg">
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public init(firstName: String, lastName: String) {<br class="gmail_msg">
self.firstName = firstName<br class="gmail_msg">
self.lastName = lastName<br class="gmail_msg">
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Is there a way around this (other than writing it)? We both agree
it would be reasonable/nice that the default initializer have the
same protection level as the struct itself.<br class="gmail_msg">
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