<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Oct 12, 2016, at 3:21 AM, Jean-Denis Muys via swift-users &lt;<a href="mailto:swift-users@swift.org" class="">swift-users@swift.org</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">But this is not very DRY.</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">What would be a more idiomatic way?</div><div class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div>The more idiomatic way is to look at API design in a new way. Note these points:<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">1. `Countable` variant is preferred when you want to deal with integer ranges as it more closely matches the element type.</div><div class="">2. Both countable range variants share a common protocol conformance already: `RandomAccessCollection`</div><div class="">3. Swift API design prefers member functions to free functions.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Hence a more idiomatic (Swifty) API would probably be something like this:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(112, 61, 170);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">extension</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">RandomAccessCollection</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class=""> {</span></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">func</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> random() -&gt; Iterator.Element? {</span></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">guard</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">count</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #3e1e81" class="">&gt;</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #272ad8" class="">0</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">else</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> { </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">return</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">nil</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> }</span></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(62, 30, 129);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">let</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class=""> offset = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">arc4random_uniform</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">(</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">numericCast</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">(</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">count</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">))</span></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">let</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> i = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #3e1e81" class="">index</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #703daa" class="">startIndex</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">, offsetBy: </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #3e1e81" class="">numericCast</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(offset))</span></div><p style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; min-height: 13px;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;</span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></p><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">return</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">self</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">[i]</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">&nbsp; &nbsp; }</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">}</span></div></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="">Using the above, both cases work and there is no repetition:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #272ad8" class="">4</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">..&lt;</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #272ad8" class="">10</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">).</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #31595d" class="">random</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">()</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">(</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #272ad8" class="">4</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">...</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #272ad8" class="">9</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">).</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #31595d" class="">random</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">()</span></div></div><div class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class="">It also makes a lot more possible:&nbsp;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo; color: rgb(209, 47, 27);" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">let</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class=""> people = [</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">"David"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">, </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">"Chris"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">, </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">"Joe"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">, </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">"Jordan"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">, </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">"Tony"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #000000" class="">]</span></div><div style="margin: 0px; font-size: 11px; line-height: normal; font-family: Menlo;" class=""><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #ba2da2" class="">let</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class=""> winner = </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #4f8187" class="">people</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures; color: #31595d" class="">random</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures: no-common-ligatures" class="">()</span></div></div></body></html>