[swift-users] [swift-build-dev] SwiftPM manual dependency management

[David Sweeris]

> On Jul 22, 2017, at 12:07, Geordie J <geojay at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Am 22.07.2017 um 19:46 schrieb David Sweeris <davesweeris at mac.com>:
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Jul 22, 2017, at 05:16, Geordie Jay via swift-build-dev <swift-build-dev at swift.org> wrote:
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>>> How can I get involved in the evolution of this? The evolutions are always uneditable uncommentable markdown files on a repo somewhere and the mailing lists are in my practical experience inpentrible especially for entries you weren't subscribed to the list for, or were "only" subscribed to the digest for. I wish they were on google docs or a hackpad equivalent. Is there "officially recognised" discussion on the SwiftPM dev slack channel regarding evolution topics?
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>> Yeah, I'm not a mailing list fan, either (at least for long or active threads), and you have nicely summarized the reasons we decided to move to a discourse server. It's just that it hasn't happened yet.
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>> To answer your question more directly, you can of course discuss things on slack, twitter, in-person, off-list email, or in any other way, but AFAIK of you want your conversation to be "on-record", you need to have it on-list. Until we move to discourse, of course.
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>> I realize that doesn't actually solve the problem, I hope it at least gives you some moral support.
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>> - Dave Sweeris (who speaks only for himself and shouldn't be taken as official source of information on this matter)
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> This is morale-boosting news! Was this discussed somewhere public? I can hardly wait, and would be willing to put some of my spare time into facilitating the move if that’s at all interesting to those making the decisions on this one.

Yay! morale += 1 😂

Yeah, I can't remember if it was a formal proposal, but it was discussed extensively on the swift-evolution list a while back (maybe late last year or early this year, I think?), and the conclusion was that we'd move to Discourse (it has a mailing list mode, for the people who prefer that). In any case, I'd imagine it hasn't happened yet simply because the people who'd need to be involved are slammed with trying to meet the 4.0 release deadline.

Within the past day or so, someone on evolution rezzed Ted's announcement thread on the matter. I'd guess that'd be as good a place as any to start, if you want to try to get "the ones making the decisions" to let you help.

- Dave Sweeris