[swift-users] Localization in Swift.

[Zhao Xin]

Hello everyone. Thanks to you all for replies in this thread.

I am currently working on a Xcode Extension for this purpose. I would like
to bring it to github in this week. This will be my first Xcode extension,
also my first github open sourced project.


Zhaoxin

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 6:14 AM, Dave Abrahams via swift-users <
swift-users at swift.org> wrote:

>
> on Wed Nov 02 2016, Jens Alfke <jens-AT-mooseyard.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Nov 2, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Dave Abrahams via swift-users <
> swift-users at swift.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> In my opinion, we can and must do much better for Swift.  If there's
> >> something about “%” formatting that you particularly value, I'd like to
> >> know about it, so I can make sure it's accomodated.
> >
> > It offers more control over formatting, like min/max widths, number
> > base, decimal places, etc. Yes, you can do this in the code inside the
> > interpolated string, but IMHO it’s awkward because it requires knowing
> > a bunch of extra methods for string conversion, truncation, etc. It’s
> > a lot easier for me to remember and type “%x” than it is to remember
> > and type the method that converts an int to a hex string.
>
> In my view this should look like
>
>   "... \(x.format(radix: 16, width: 12))... "
>
> Where the possible arguments to format() are statically known to the
> compiler (and code completion!) based on the type of x.
>
> >
> > Also (and more importantly for localization) the formatting details
> > are part of the localizable format string, not hardwired. One example
> > of this is formatting currency, where a US localization would use
> > “$%.2f” but other currencies might call for more or fewer decimal
> > places.
>
> Yep, I'm paying attention to that, thanks.
>
> > There are other examples where one might swap format strings for other
> > purposes like different-width layouts for monospaced/terminal output.
>
> I think we can leverage the same mechanisms used for localization to
> handle those.
>
> > There’s also a nonstandard extension used by Cocoa/CF’s formatters,
> > that allows the parameters to be reordered. (I haven’t used it so I
> > don’t know the syntax offhand.) This is of course important for
> > localization, to follow a language’s grammar.
>
> Right, that's crucial.
>
> > I think these features could be added to interpolation. Just as a
> > quick idea, maybe a syntax that allows formatting metacharacters to be
> > added at the start of the interpolation, like “Please pay $\((.2)
> > total)” where the “(.2) specifies two decimal places, or “The address
> > is \((x) addr)”.
>
> I think the “.format(...)” approach is better, but it's equally
> important that there are sufficient outside-the-Swift-source knobs for
> localizers to add language-specific formatting parameters.
>
> --
> -Dave
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