[swift-users] Swift in bare-metal embedded programming/Swift runtime

Saagar Jha saagarjha28 at gmail.com
Wed Aug 10 14:14:44 CDT 2016



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> On Aug 10, 2016, at 08:31, Jens Alfke via swift-users <swift-users at swift.org> wrote:
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>> On Aug 9, 2016, at 1:10 PM, Rick Mann via swift-users <swift-users at swift.org> wrote:
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>> For the smaller devices, runtime library overhead is a concern (mostly due to code size). Is it possible to write swift code with no runtime library? I think this is possible in Rust (came up on another list).
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> I have never seen the Swift source code, but I’d be surprised if Swift binaries didn’t require at least the standard C runtime library. (It’s pretty hard to get anything done without at least having malloc/free!)
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> Don’t forget that the binary will have to include the implementations of the standard Swift library classes, at least the ones used by your program. I’m sure String in particular is a significant chunk of code, since it has to do all kinds of Unicode stuff. (In fact it might have a dependency on ICU, which is a pretty hefty C library.)
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>> These devices usually have memory-mapped registers that are read and written to affect the operation of the device. Some can be quite small (e.g. 8-bit registers, simple single physical memory address space), and others quite robust (full 32- or 64-bit machines with MMUs, etc.).
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> Arduinos are probably right out, since there’s no way anyone’s going to port Swift to an 8-bit CPU!
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> If you’re going for something bigger than that, why not just use a Raspberry Pi or C.H.I.P. or one of the other tiny ARM PC boards? They all run Linux, and I believe people are already working on porting Swift to run on those.

Minor correction: Swift already builds and runs on the Raspberry Pi :)

> C.H.I.P. costs $9, and I saw a blurb somewhere about a competitor that’s only $5.
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> —Jens
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