[swift-server-dev] Another way of designing server side

Anton Mironov antonvmironov at gmail.com
Mon Nov 7 02:42:13 CST 2016

As you say, those primitives must be well-designed: criterion A, criterion B, criterion C.  Primitives must be flexible to accommodate: paradigm  A, paradigm B, paradigm C. That still looks like design guidelines to me.

> 7 лист. 2016 р. о 10:27 Brent Royal-Gordon <brent at architechies.com> написав(ла):
>> On Nov 6, 2016, at 2:10 PM, Anton Mironov via swift-server-dev <swift-server-dev at swift.org> wrote:
>> 2. A basic set of designing rules on top of an ideology. For example (you might completely disagree with all of them, but these are just an example):
>>   - prefer a functional approach (purity, lambdas, monads and etc)
>>   - prefer a reactive approach
>>   - carefully consider use of class inheritance
>>   - mutability only when you need it
>>   - build APIs that are hard to break or use in a not intended way
>>   - TODO
>>   I really miss these. On my opinion, the basic set of rules must be well discussed, written down, made public.
> I disagree with this.
> A web framework ought to be opinionated and consistent, and thus should have a strong, single-paradigm design. But the working group is not designing a web framework; it's designing the *infrastructure* for web frameworks. Designers should be able to take the output of this group and use it to make a framework that matches their vision of web programmer. One developer might design a traditionally functional framework; another might design a functional reactive one; a third might design a class-based MVC framework; a fourth might design a highly dynamic "convention over configuration" framework; a fifth might be very careful to file all the edges off. All of them should be able to use the networking, security, protocol, etc. primitives this group designs.
> Obviously we should make sure the primitives are well-designed and flexible enough to accommodate many paradigms. But that's different from engineering paradigm opinions into them.
> -- 
> Brent Royal-Gordon
> Architechies

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