[swift-server-dev] Database API/Framework

[Paulo Faria]

Hello, Helge.

Yes, most of the things we’ll cover are already provided by some frameworks, but having an official library joining efforts will be great for the community. We’ll provide full-fledged Swift libraries for the topics mentioned. How they’re going to be developed it’s still to be decided.

Cheers,
Paulo

> On Oct 25, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Helge Heß via swift-server-dev <swift-server-dev at swift.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Chris,
> 
> it is a little unclear what the scope of the group is. Presumably you have some very specific things in mind?
> 
> Of course we’ve seen https://swift.org/server-apis/#focus-areas. But what does it actually mean? :-) Looking at it:
> - base networking: TCP/UDP, DNS. Covered already by libdispatch and the OS’ses?
> - security: OpenSSL? or some wrapper around both, CC and OpenSSL?
> - provide low level HTTP parsing: http_parser? Is anyone using something
>  else?
> All that seems kinda covered/standard already? Unless maybe you include non-Unix stuff like Windows.
> 
> Is this primarily for things like providing a standardised ’swiftier' OpenSSL wrapper (similar to how Objective-GCD wraps libdispatch)?
> Or would that just be module maps which are shipped by default with Swift and hence can be relied on by all frameworks?
> 
> But maybe I’m just a little too impatient :->
> 
> hh
> 
>> On 25 Oct 2016, at 20:41, Chris Bailey via swift-server-dev <swift-server-dev at swift.org> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Ron: 
>> 
>> As you say, that's outside of the scope of the work group, however I do think its a valuable area that the various existing web framework groups might be interested in collaborating on. Having a common, recognized framework that the database providers or third parties would be interested in writing database drivers for would be a huge step forward. 
>> 
>> I know that Vapor has its Fluent ORM framework, and that its an area that the Kitura team are looking at as well, so your post might kick-start some wider discussion. 
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From:        Ron Olson via swift-server-dev <swift-server-dev at swift.org> 
>> To:        swift-server-dev at swift.org 
>> Date:        25/10/2016 18:54 
>> Subject:        [swift-server-dev] Database API/Framework 
>> Sent by:        swift-server-dev-bounces at swift.org 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi all-
>> 
>> I've been working with Swift more on Linux than macOS and am very 
>> excited to see the formation of this group. Looking at the server api 
>> workgroup's focus, I notice it's primarily low-level interaction with 
>> the operating system. When might it be a good time to bring up the 
>> possibility of creating a database-specific framework for those folks 
>> who want to work directly with Postgres, MySQL, even DB2 and Oracle; I'm 
>> thinking a JDBC-inspired framework that drivers could be written 
>> against.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Ron
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