<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap:break-word"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">First off, I think the whole LLDB team can agree on the simple principle that tests that sometimes fail is not something we’re shooting for, so we’re on the same page with the general sentiment.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">But, rather than talking in sweeping generalizations, let’s take this exact failure as an example.  It was a socket attempting to connect.  It uses general socket timeouts.  If it’s using a default, it will typically be something like 30 seconds.  Per my previous comment, this is not something we see fail with any kind of frequency.  We just had a failure on it now.  Is the solution to say we want 35 seconds?  1 minute?  2 minutes?  We’re using end-to-end testing here, and therefore we are subject to how a real system behaves.  If we crank that up, there could be a time where we overload the server further, and the socket facility just fails.  What do you do then, claim the test as unworthy?</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">The challenge we run into on LLDB is that, while we do have a growing number of unit tests that are strict input/output verification, far too much of a functioning debugger’s operations are not covered adequately by that.  So we have a large body of end to end tests.  Sometimes those fail under heavy load.  Sometimes those issues are ours - we have hidden races that are only exposed when the machine is grinding to a halt.  Sometimes it is that the OS fails to handle requests for resources that the debugger needs.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">So it isn’t as simple as saying “file a bug to make the LLDB test suite more reliable.”  (I wish it were!)</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">On the positive side, we have more resources going into improving our quality in the upcoming months, and we now have a dedicated quality engineer working with us.  I expect this will help things as we move forward.  And we’re looking to sink some of the system testing that currently exists end-to-end in LLDB to a more input-output style testing that we can do without needing the whole of LLDB (e.g. DWARF verification, DWARF type round-tripping through the compiler, etc. - Greg and Sean can speak more to what we’re doing there).</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">The net effect is that we should be hitting less of this noise.</div> <div><br></div>-Todd<br><p class="airmail_on">On August 19, 2016 at 2:10:14 PM, Daniel Dunbar via swift-lldb-dev (<a href="mailto:swift-lldb-dev@swift.org">swift-lldb-dev@swift.org</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class=""><div></div><div>



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The amount of flakiness in the LLDB tests is disturbing... is there
a high-level bug tracking improving this? It seems like it might be
worth running a stress test of the tests on a loaded machine to try
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On Aug 19, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Todd Fiala via swift-lldb-dev
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It looks like this may be the packaging build:
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File &quot;/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py&quot;, line 206, in accept sock, addr
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Where is this failure being reported?  I’m not seeing anything
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Failing in lldb:
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Command invoked:
/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/test/dotest.py
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/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/lldb-linux-x86_64/bin/lldb
--rerun-all-issues -C
/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/llvm-linux-x86_64/bin/clang
-s 2016-08-18-15_15_07 --results-port 41187 --inferior -p
TestStubReverseConnect.py
/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test
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compiler=/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/build/buildbot_linux/llvm-linux-x86_64/bin/clang
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Collected 2 tests
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ERROR: test_reverse_connect_works_llgs
(TestStubReverseConnect.TestStubReverseConnect)
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Traceback (most recent call last): File
&quot;/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test/decorators.py&quot;,
line 121, in wrapper func(*args, **kwargs) File
&quot;/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test/decorators.py&quot;,
line 121, in wrapper func(*args, **kwargs) File
&quot;/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test/tools/lldb-server/commandline/TestStubReverseConnect.py&quot;,
line 89, in test_reverse_connect_works_llgs
self.reverse_connect_works() File
&quot;/home/buildnode/jenkins/workspace/oss-swift-package-linux-ubuntu-15_10/lldb/packages/Python/lldbsuite/test/tools/lldb-server/commandline/TestStubReverseConnect.py&quot;,
line 67, in reverse_connect_works (stub_socket, address) =
self.listener_socket.accept() File &quot;/usr/lib/python2.7/socket.py&quot;,
line 206, in accept sock, addr = self._sock.accept() timeout: timed
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Ran 2 tests in 22.006s RESULT: FAILED (0 passes, 0 failures, 1
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Session logs for test failures/errors/unexpected successes can be
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Command invoked: /usr/bin/python
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--rerun-all-issues -C
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<li class="">Regression test failed: This build failed because a
regression test in the test suite FAILed. Below is a list of all
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Thread shim to match changes on Linux side.</p>
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