<div dir="ltr">glad to see this finally moving forward! <br><div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 20, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Ted Kremenek via swift-evolution <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p style="margin:0px">Proposal link: <a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0193-cross-module-inlining-and-specialization.md" target="_blank">https://github.com/apple/<wbr>swift-evolution/blob/master/<wbr>proposals/0193-cross-module-<wbr>inlining-and-specialization.md</a><br>
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<p style="margin:0px 0px 15px">What is your evaluation of the proposal?</p></li></ul></div></div></blockquote><div>this is a feature i have been waiting for for a long time so needless to say i strongly support this proposal. one comment is that <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">@abiPublic</span> is a kind of awkward thing to have around, not because of how it’s spelled but because i think access control and abi visibility are orthogonal concepts and i’m not a fan of overloading access control terms for abi concepts. it makes sense to have <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">@abiPublic</span> on <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">private</span> and <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">fileprivate</span> declarations too and i hope this gets added, because <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">private</span> and <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">fileprivate</span> are tools for code organization and maintenance,, the compiler with wmo doesn’t care about <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">private</span> vs <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">internal</span>. but <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace">@abiPublic private</span> is bound to cause confusion and it just reads funny. <br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div name="messageBodySection" style="font-size:14px;font-family:-apple-system,BlinkMacSystemFont,sans-serif"><ul style="margin:15px 0px;padding-left:30px;font-family:Helvetica,arial,sans-serif;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><li style="margin:0px">
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