<html><head><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">That sounds great to me. I don’t see December as a promise, and as I already mentioned in the other thread, that’s totally fine by me. I think it’s only fair if I say that a little bit more transparency on what’s going on with the forum is already enough for the community.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">I’d say we should migrate all existing mailing lists to the new forum. I also would love if the forum wouldn’t be restricted to pure swift evolution. By that I don’t mean I want to see other topics in the evolution category or subforum. What I really meant is that it would really great if the forum could evolve itself as a centralized forum for *all* existing swift platforms. If for instance there would be a subforum for apple platforms, their active members can start showing interest in the language evolution and begin contributing to the evolution process.</div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;">Furthermore I really believe that the swift forum will also bring contributors together and make it way easier to find teams that can tackle proposals (authors/implementers) where their process can stay transparent and where we (the community) can follow along and provide feedback. </div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1510308684111675136" class="bloop_sign"></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">Am 9. November 2017 um 15:13:33, Ted Kremenek via swift-evolution (<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>) schrieb:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div></div><div>
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The decision to move to a forum was announced a while ago, and it
hasn’t appeared yet. I think we will be making the move soon
and I wanted to provide some reasons why it was delayed and what
comes next.
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<div class="">The reasons it was delayed are twofold:</div>
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<div class="">- When we (the community) decided to move to a
forum there was plenty of other planned infrastructure work that
was in the works that took immediate priority (such as the source
compatibility suite and supporting Swift 4 development).</div>
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<div class="">- In August (when Swift 4 was wrapping up) my team at
Apple seriously picked up the topic of the forum again and started
looking in how to make it happen. At that point, a bunch of
unexpected delays, one after the other, happened. I can’t
share these details (they are mostly non-technical) and going
through them would come off as me making a bunch of excuses anyway.
I do realize the forum has been promised and not yet
delivered for some time, and I know how frustrating that is to the
community.</div>
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<div class="">Here’s what happens next:</div>
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<div class="">- We plan on having the company behind <a href="http://Discourse.org" class="">Discourse.org</a> host the
forums. We’re wrapping up the remaining steps to issue a PO,
but my hope is to get that all done within the next couple weeks.
Thanksgiving in the USA may delay that to the beginning of
December.</div>
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<div class="">- My understanding is the forum will still have a
<a href="http://swift.org" class="">swift.org</a> address, so
the hosting is just an implementation detail.</div>
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<div class="">- The company hosting <a href="http://Discourse.org" class="">Discourse.org</a> will migrate the existing mailing list
archives over to the new forum. One thing we will need to
figure out (possibly as a community?) are specific requirements we
have in place for that migration. The new forums don’t have
to exactly mirror how the mailing lists are structured today, and
part of the reason to move to the forum was motivated by having new
opportunities to structure conversations.</div>
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<div class="">I suspect there will be some trial and error with
moving over the existing mailing lists to the new forum, and I
don’t have a good feel on how long that will take. However,
once we reach that stage, it should be very transparent to the
community what exactly is going on. My hope is that process
will start in December.</div>
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<div class="">Ted</div>
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