<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I think we’ve agreed to a few minor updates to this proposal. Since there hasn’t been any other feedback on the thread it may be worth posting an amended proposal so we all know what we’ve agreed on.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Andy<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 3, 2017, at 8:23 PM, Andrew Trick via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Sep 3, 2017, at 8:05 PM, Xiaodi Wu <<a href="mailto:xiaodi.wu@gmail.com" class="">xiaodi.wu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">If we use byte offset, then the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" class="">at</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>parameter in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" class="">UnsafeMutableRawPointer</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>should be removed, since pointer arithmetic can be used instead (just like with<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" class="">UnsafeMutablePointer</span>).</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I agree that it seems quite sensible to remove the ‘at’ parameter altogether from the UMRP method.</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>No code in tree or on github is using the `at` argument. I think it can be removed. A fixit should still be possible.</div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">Not convinced moving the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" class="">at:</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>argument to come before the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span style="font-family: monospace, monospace;" class="">as:</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>argument is worth it in terms of source breakage.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Since much of this proposal involves shuffling and relabeling arguments, I’d argue it’s better to break slight more source in one go for the optimal API than to break slightly less for a slightly less optimal API, no? (This is assuming there is agreement that ‘at:as:’ is less prone to misinterpretation than ‘as:at:’.)</div></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">To be clear, we’re just talking about UnsafeMutableRawBufferPointer.initializeMemory now, so this is purely additive.</div><div class="">I think the label needs to be `atByteOffset`, and placing it before `as` makes a lot of sense because it no longer depends on the type’s stride. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-Andy</div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></body></html>