<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 21, 2017, at 5:51 AM, David Hart <<a href="mailto:david@hartbit.com" class="">david@hartbit.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 21 Aug 2017, at 13:36, Adrian Zubarev <<a href="mailto:adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com" class="">adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="bloop_markdown" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);"><p style="margin: 15px 0px; -webkit-margin-before: 0px;" class="">It’s part of Generalized Existentials, but does not make it complete. I think it would be worth adding more and more functionality to existentials every year. We started first with reshaping the syntax. This year we added support for classes. I think next year would be good to have<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><code style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, 'Liberation Mono', Courier, monospace; font-size: 10pt; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248); color: inherit; border: 1px solid rgb(234, 234, 234); margin: 0px 2px; padding: 0px 5px; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; -webkit-margin-before: 0px;" class="">where</code><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>clause support for typealiases.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></p><p style="margin: 15px 0px;" class="">I understand the complexity of that particular feature, and it’s a no-go for me to help on the implementation, but I’m willing to drive the discussion and the proposal forward with other co-authors. :)</p><p style="margin: 15px 0px;" class="">Hasn’t it been said that the implementation must be at least a *proof-of-concept* if the complexity is very high?</p></div></div></blockquote><div class="">I’d love to have this feature. But I’m not sure even a partway proposal will get to review with the laser-focus on ABI Stability + Concurrency. I don’t want to spend time co-authoring a proposal if it is going to be out of scope anyway. Perhaps Doug (CC) can give us some ideas.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>The main issue is the implementation: it’s a nontrivial feature with impact on the AST, type checker, SIL, IR generation, type metadata, and runtime. On the other hand, it’s one of these features that’s 95% testable refactoring: one can plumb the notion of “generalized existential” through the whole compiler as a generalization of the existing existential types. The core abstraction needed to capture the requirements on the existential (GenericSignature) is already there in the compiler for generics, and much of the task is to generalize (as appropriate) and use that machinery for existentials.</div><div><br class=""></div>It’s not an easy feature, but there are many capable people who could do it, and of course we’ll be happy to give guidance/review over on swift-dev if someone would like to work on it. The refactoring I mentioned could be developed on master (incrementally) as a general improvement to the compiler, so the implementation of the feature itself is a small, more syntactically-focused separate piece.<br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="bloop_markdown" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);"><p style="margin: 15px 0px;" class="">And my second question is: Wouldn’t the existence of this feature reshape some parts of the standard library, isn’t that affecting some major goals of Swift 5?</p></div></div></blockquote>Yes. But that also true of many other language feature. But the Standard Library still needs to be set in stone at some point or another.<br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Generalized existentials would affect some parts of the standard library (e.g., they’d be a better way to implement AnyCollection et al), but generalized existentials are not a game-changer for the design.</div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="bloop_markdown" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);"><p style="margin: 15px 0px;" class="">It would be nice if someone from the core team can clarify if the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><code style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, 'Liberation Mono', Courier, monospace; font-size: 10pt; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248); color: inherit; border: 1px solid rgb(234, 234, 234); margin: 0px 2px; padding: 0px 5px; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; -webkit-margin-before: 0px;" class="">where</code><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>clause is out of scope for Swift 5 or not.</p></div></div></blockquote><div class="">Agreed.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>It’s not “out of scope”, but everything hinges on the implementation task.</div><div><br class=""></div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- Doug</div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="bloop_original_html" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);"><div id="bloop_sign_1503314850459755776" class="bloop_sign"></div><br class=""><p class="airmail_on" style="margin: 15px 0px;">Am 21. August 2017 um 12:51:48, David Hart (<a href="mailto:david@hartbit.com" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;" class="">david@hartbit.com</a>) schrieb:</p><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="margin: 15px 0px;"><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style="margin: 15px 0px;"><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px;">On 21 Aug 2017, at 11:41, Adrian Zubarev <<a href="mailto:adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com" class="" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;">adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="" style="margin-bottom: 0px;"><div id="bloop_customfont" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; margin: 0px;">Yes, `where` clause is welcome to typealises (including generic ones) and existentials in general. I would love to help on such proposal. I think David Hart is also interested in this one. (cc)</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes, this basically seems like<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">Generalized Existentials</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>to me and is mentioned in the <a href="https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/GenericsManifesto.md" class="" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;">Generics Manifesto</a>. It’s a feature I hold very dear but:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><ul class="MailOutline" style="margin: 15px 0px;"><li class="" style="margin: 15px 0px;">It’s a very difficult feature to implement and I think Doug Gregor is the only/best person to do it</li><li class="" style="margin: 15px 0px;">I think its pretty much out of scope for Swift 5 (it’s not required for ABI Stability)</li></ul><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As a result, I’d be very surprised if this topic got any discussion or implementation time during the Swift 5 timeframe.</div></div><blockquote type="cite" class="" style="margin: 15px 0px;"><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><p class="airmail_on" style="margin: 15px 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;">Am 21. August 2017 um 11:38:14, Gor Gyolchanyan via swift-evolution (<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>) schrieb:</p><blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" style="margin: 15px 0px; font-family: Helvetica, Arial; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""></div><div class=""><span class="">Hello, Swift community!</span><div class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><span class="">I'd like to start a discussion about a possibility of constrained protocol aliases. The declaration would look like this:</span></div><div class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><span class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">typealias</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">BinaryProtocol</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>=<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">RandomAccessCollection</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>&<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">MutablCollection</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>&<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">RangeReplaceableCollection</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" class="">where</font> <font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>==<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Int</font>,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Element</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>==<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Bool</font></font></span></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The syntax and semantics of this declaration are exactly the same as an analogous<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" face="Menlo" class="">associatedtype</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>declaration inside a protocol.</div><div class="">In the example above, the type<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font face="Menlo" color="#008F00" class="">BinaryProtocol</font> represents a logical array of bits and is a generic-only protocol that is usable in any context where an integer-indexed mutable range-replaceable random-access collection is expected.</div><div class="">Now, it can be used in a very concise and elegant way:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">public</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" class="">protocol</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">BinaryInitializable</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>{</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">init</font><<font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>>(binary:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" class="">where</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">BinaryProtocol</font></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class="">}</font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">which would otherwise look very verbose and inelegant:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">public</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" class="">protocol</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">BinaryInitializable</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>{</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">init</font><<font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>>(binary:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" class="">where</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Binary: <font color="#008F00" class="">RandomAccessCollection</font> & <font color="#008F00" class="">MutablCollection</font> & <font color="#008F00" class="">RangeReplaceableCollection,</font> <font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">Int</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">Binary</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Element</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">Bool</font></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class="">}</font></div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Considering that smaller sets of constraints could be aliased to their own protocol and then composited into more complex aliases, this feature would dramatically improve readability and maintainability of code that uses complex constraints, that currently leads to arcane mess:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">struct</font> <font color="#008F00" class="">Mirror</font> {</font></div><div class=""><ul class="container" style="margin: 0px; box-sizing: border-box; padding: 0px; width: auto; list-style: none;"><li class="" style="margin: 15px 0px;"><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#797979" class="">/// ...</font></font></li><li class="" style="margin: 15px 0px;"><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">init</font><<font color="#008F00" class="">Subject</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font> <font color="#941751" class="">where</font> <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font> : <font color="#008F00" class="">Collection</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font> : <font color="#008F00" class="">Collection</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font> : <font color="#008F00" class="">Collection</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Iterator</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Element</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">Mirror</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Child</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font> : <font color="#008F00" class="">Collection</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Iterator</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Element</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Iterator</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Element</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">Mirror</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Child</font>, <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">SubSequence</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Indices</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Iterator</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Element</font> == <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Index</font>>(_ subject: <font color="#008F00" class="">Subject</font>, children: <font color="#008F00" class="">C</font>, displayStyle: <font color="#008F00" class="">Mirror</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">DisplayStyle</font>? = <font color="#941751" class="">default</font>, ancestorRepresentation: <font color="#008F00" class="">Mirror</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">AncestorRepresentation</font> = <font color="#941751" class="">default</font>)</font></li></ul><div class=""><font face="Menlo" color="#797979" class="">/// ...</font></div></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class="">}</font></div></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><font color="#797979" face="Menlo" class="">/// A collection that is its own sub-sequence</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">typealias</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>=<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Collection</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" class="">where</font></font></div><div class=""><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">SubSequence</font><font face="Menlo" class="">:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Collection</font>,</font></div><div class=""><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">SubSequence</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Element</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">== </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Element</font></div><div class=""><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">SubSequence</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Indices</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">== </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Indices</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">,</span></div><div class=""><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">SubSequence</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">SubSequence</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">== </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">SubSequence</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font color="#797979" face="Menlo" class="">/// A collection that is its own index collection</font></div><div class=""><font color="#941751" face="Menlo" class="">typealias</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelyIndexableCollection</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">=</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Collection</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" face="Menlo" class="">where</font></div><div class=""><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelyIndexableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Indices</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">== </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">,</span></div><div class=""><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelyIndexableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Indices</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Index</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">== </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelyIndexableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Index</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">,</span></div><div class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"><br class=""></span></div><div class=""><font color="#941751" face="Menlo" class="">struct</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">Mirror {</span></div><div class=""><font color="#797979" face="Menlo" class="">/// ...</font></div><div class=""><font color="#941751" face="Menlo" class="">init</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"><</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Subject</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">,</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">C</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">: </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelySliceableCollection</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">& </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">RecursivelyIndexableCollection</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">, </span><font color="#941751" face="Menlo" class="">where</font> <font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">C</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Element</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">==</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Mirror</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" face="Menlo" class="">Child</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">>(</span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">_ subject:</span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">Subject</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">, children:</span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">C</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">, displayStyle:</span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">Mirror</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">DisplayStyle</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">? =</span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"> </span><font color="#941751" class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">default</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">, ancestorRepresentation:</span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">Mirror</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">.</span><font color="#008F00" class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">AncestorRepresentation</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"> </span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">=</span><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"> </span><font color="#941751" class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">default</font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">)</span></div><div class=""><font color="#797979" face="Menlo" class="">/// ...</font></div><div class=""><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;">}</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Even considering that the proposal SE-0157 (<a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0157-recursive-protocol-constraints.md" class="" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0157-recursive-protocol-constraints.md</a>) is going to make this specific use case a non-issue, the principle applies to all cases where there are commonly used complex constraints that don't necessarily involve recursive constraints.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><b class="">Specializing Generic-Only Protocols For Non-Generic Use</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">An additional feature that would prove to be very useful would be to make a constrained protocol alias be a non-generic-only protocol if the constraints of the alias declaration specify a same-type requirement for all its associated types, while defaulted associated types would also count.</div><div class="">Example:</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">protocol</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Consumer</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>{</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">associatedtype</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Consumable</font></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">mutating</font> <font color="#941751" class="">func</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>consume(_ consumable:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Consumable</font>)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" class="">throws</font></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class="">}</font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">var</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>consumer0:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Consumer</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#797979" class="">// </font></font><span class="" style="font-family: Menlo;"><i class=""><font color="#FF2600" class="">error: Consumer is only usable in a generic context</font></i></span></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">typealias</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">CharacterConsumer</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>=<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#008F00" class="">Consumer</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" class="">where </font> </font><span class="" style="color: rgb(0, 143, 0); font-family: Menlo;">Character</span><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#008F00" class="">Consumer</font>.<font color="#008F00" class="">Consumable</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>== </font><span class="" style="color: rgb(0, 143, 0); font-family: Menlo;">Character</span></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#941751" class="">var</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>consumer1: </font><span class="" style="color: rgb(0, 143, 0); font-family: Menlo;">Character</span><font face="Menlo" class=""><font color="#008F00" class="">Consumer</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#797979" class="">// OK</font></font></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The current workaround would be to declare a new protocol with protocol inheritance clauses and a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><font color="#941751" face="Menlo" class="">where</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>clause, but the major downside is that it introduces a completely new protocol that is not compatible with any context that expects the underlying protocols and their constraints.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class="">Gor Gyolchanyan.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a 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