<div dir="ltr">The argument is not about whether or not it should come through as an object. The argument is about the fact that *sometimes* it would come through as an object and other times it would not. Optionality isn't an obvious way to make that decision.<div><br></div><div>TJ</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 3:03 PM, Charlie Monroe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:charlie@charliemonroe.net" target="_blank">charlie@charliemonroe.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">This is not much of an argument given that NSString is an object in ObjC (heap-allocated), String in Swift is an struct and also given that most NSNumber's nowadays are not really allocated, but just tagged pointers.<div><br></div><div>Given that NSNumber is immutable, you get the value semantics anyway...</div><div><div class="h5"><div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On May 15, 2017, at 1:09 PM, T.J. Usiyan via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_3753337135911845543Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div dir="ltr">My understanding of the reasoning is that `NSNumber` is an object in Objective-C and not a struct. There is already one level of decision when translating to objc in that regard. Switching between reference semantics/class and value semantics because of optionality is surprising.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 5:52 AM, Kenny Leung via swift-evolution <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>> On May 12, 2017, at 9:56 AM, John McCall via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Exporting Int? as an optional NSNumber does not feel obvious and idiomatic when we would export Int as NSInteger. It feels like reaching for an arbitrary solution.<br>
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</span>I don’t understand this reasoning. I’ve had cause to distinguish 0 from null in both Objective-C and Java, and I would do exactly the same thing.<br>
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-Kenny<br>
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