<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I don't see the motivation for removing enumerated(). It's a source-breaking change that seems unjustified to me. Sure, enumerated() isn't as flexible as one might like, and you can certainly reproduce its effects with zip(), but I don't think we've demonstrated that enumerated() is actively harmful. Removing it means obsolescing a bunch of training material, blog posts, etc. What do we gain by removing it?<br><br>-BJ</div><div><br>On May 10, 2017, at 7:24 AM, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution &lt;<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>When this was previously brought up, I believe the consensus was for removing enumerated and doing nothing else.<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, May 10, 2017 at 02:50 Pavol Vaskovic &lt;<a href="mailto:pali@pali.sk">pali@pali.sk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">One more note:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote"></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 8:51 PM, Ben Cohen <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ben_cohen@apple.com" target="_blank">ben_cohen@apple.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:menlo;color:rgb(180,38,26)"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(4,51,255)">let</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(0,0,0)">&nbsp;words = [</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">"five"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(0,0,0)">,</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">"four"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(0,0,0)">,</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">"three"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(0,0,0)">,</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">"two"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(0,0,0)">,</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">"one"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(0,0,0)">,</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">"blastoff!"</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(0,0,0)">]</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">((0...5)</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(52,149,175)">reversed</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">()&nbsp;</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(52,149,175)">|&gt;</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">&nbsp;{&nbsp;</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(52,149,175)">zip</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">($0,&nbsp;</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(52,149,175)">words</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">) })</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:menlo"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp;.</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(52,149,175)">forEach</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">&nbsp;{&nbsp;</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(52,149,175)">print</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">($0.0,$0.1, separator:&nbsp;</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(180,38,26)">": "</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures">) }</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:menlo;min-height:13px"><br><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures"></span></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>...</div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockqu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