<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Over my dead body --random list dweller ;)</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">Seriously though, I think the labels should be made to matter not removed if they do not matter now. I think this goes to a path where we should not take protocols as they should be true contracts for the API in question (default method in protocols make me think we have to write unit tests for a protocol which sounds mad... oh well) although some may argue the ownership info is implementation detail and on that point I may agree with you ;).</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On 8 May 2017, at 07:57, David Hart via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii">Sounds great! It should be an easy one to get through,<div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 8 May 2017, at 08:35, Greg Spiers <<a href="mailto:gspiers@gmail.com" class="">gspiers@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 6:26 AM, David Hart via swift-evolution <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><span class="gmail-"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class="">On 7 May 2017, at 20:12, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Today these keywords have no meaning inside a protocol, so clearly it should be an error to use it in that context. I agree with Jordan that the error should be on the protocol.<br class=""><br class="">It's entirely a different conversation whether the keyword should have meaning or not. If it should, it seems to me it should be limited to protocols that are limited to classes. But that's an additive feature we can discuss later.<br class=""><br class="">The source-breaking bug fix that is more pressing today is removing meaningless keywords that can be misleading to users, because they have no effect but look like they should.<br class=""></div></blockquote></span></div></blockquote><div class="">Exactly the trap I fell into when I found this issue.</div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><span class="gmail-"><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div></span><div class="">Yup, +1. Who wants to write a proposal?</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I'd like to give it a try. I can write up the proposal to remove the keywords in protocols and will post a draft here for further discussion.</div><div class=""> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class=""><span class="gmail-"><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 11:00 Goffredo Marocchi via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">It would be useful to have a longer discussion on this as... I think that weak has a place there and should be enforced as a protocol is the public facing interface/api for the types who decide to adopt it.<br class="">
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