<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">To be frank, there’s no way this is happening. The rationale for Swift’s error handling is <a href="https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/ErrorHandling.rst" class="">documented</a>, and this system was designed and implemented *after* optionals already existed in the language. I don’t think there’s any evidence that this was a horrible decision, especially one that requires a *majorly* source-breaking change to remove.<div class=""><br class=""><div class="">– Jaden</div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On May 3, 2017, at 3:06 AM, Jose Manuel Sánchez Peñarroja via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8" class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: 'Helvetica Neue';" class="">There is currently a discussion open about throws, but it seems that the idea would be to add optionals to throws. In my opinion it would be much better to just get rid of all the throw error system.</span><br class=""><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">I think an *Result<ErrorT, T>* type would provide much better error handling than the current solution:</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">- It would work just like Optional. We could use ?, ??, map, all those concepts that are already in use. A Result would basically be like a missing value with an error attached. *mapError* could also be added to transform error types to the appropriate value. </div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">- We would have a specific error type. Right now throws just returns an *Error*, which is basically a glorified *Any*. Anything can go in there, and it's really hard (or impossible) to know if we are dealing with all the possible options. a Result type would enforce a specific error, so we would gain type safety and we could be sure we are dealing with all the cases.</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">- It would simplify everything. We could get rid of *try*, *try?*, *throws*, *rethrows*, *do … catch*.</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);" class="">- It could be used asynchronously by just passing the *Result* value. Right now there is a different mechanism for handling async and sync calls. The sync calls have all the *throws*, *rethrows*, must be taken care with *try* and *do … catch*, while in a callback you just send the error.</div><div style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); min-height: 14px;" class=""><br class=""></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></body></html>