Sorry, what do you mean by "pure" or "practical"?<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 16:41 John Holdsworth <<a href="mailto:mac@johnholdsworth.com">mac@johnholdsworth.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg">There isn’t much in it TBH and I could live with either. Option 1 seems to have been a regression.<div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg">Option 3 is the pure route in one sense but for me Option 2 the more practical which I</div><div class="gmail_msg">was hoping to demonstrate with the example strings. I’d also ague lines should be</div><div class="gmail_msg">complete (have line endings unless escaped) by default in a multiline string.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">On 12 Apr 2017, at 22:31, Xiaodi Wu <<a href="mailto:xiaodi.wu@gmail.com" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">xiaodi.wu@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="m_-89139649707004719Apple-interchange-newline gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">John, why do you think that option 2 is superior to option 3?</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 16:14 John Holdsworth via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:<br class="gmail_msg"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">I think we’re agreeing. Looks like I need to clarify my last post a little. When I included the following strings:</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:11px;font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> </span><span style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:11px;font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(186,45,162)" class="gmail_msg">let</span><span style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:11px;font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> longstring = ""</span><span style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:11px;font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg">"\</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod \</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, \</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.\</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> "</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg">""</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;min-height:13px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"></span><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(62,30,129)" class="gmail_msg">print</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg">( ""</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg">"\</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> Usage: myapp <options></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27);min-height:13px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> </span><br class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> Run myapp to do mything</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27);min-height:13px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> </span><br class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> Options:</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> -myoption - an option</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> "</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg">"" )</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg">These were expressed in term of the proposal after last nights changes.</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg">By advocating option 2) I’m accepting we should revert back to the following:</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:11px;font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> </span><span style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:11px;font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(186,45,162)" class="gmail_msg">let</span><span style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:11px;font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> longstring = ""</span><span style="font-family:Menlo;font-size:11px;font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg">"</span></div><div class="gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit, sed do eiusmod \</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> tempor incididunt ut labore et dolore magna aliqua. Ut enim ad minim veniam, \</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> quis nostrud exercitation ullamco laboris nisi ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.\</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> "</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg">""</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;min-height:13px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"></span><br class="gmail_msg"></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> </span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(62,30,129)" class="gmail_msg">print</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg">( ""</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg">"</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> Usage: myapp <options></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27);min-height:13px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> </span><br class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> Run myapp to do mything</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27);min-height:13px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> </span><br class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> Options:</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> -myoption - an option</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"> "</span><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg">"” )</span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div><div style="margin:0px;font-size:11px;line-height:normal;font-family:Menlo;color:rgb(209,47,27)" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px" class="gmail_msg">1) Proposal as it stands - no magic removal of leading/training blank lines.<br class="gmail_msg">2) Removal of a leading blank line when indent stripping is being applied.<br class="gmail_msg">3) Removal of leading blank line and trailing newline when indent stripping is being applied.<br class="gmail_msg"></blockquote></span></div><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:no-common-ligatures" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></span></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">Also, note: the toolchain does not seem to work at all with playgrounds. I’ve been using small test apps.</div><div class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div></div></div></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg">On 12 Apr 2017, at 21:06, Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006bloop_markdown" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(254,254,254)"><p style="margin:15px 0px" class="gmail_msg">Exactly, I feel like we found a Swifty version of a multi-line string literal. :)</p><div style="margin:15px 0px" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006bloop_original_html" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(254,254,254)"><div id="m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;margin:0px" class="gmail_msg"><br class="gmail_msg"></div><br class="gmail_msg"><div id="m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006bloop_sign_1492027493894078976" class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006bloop_sign"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px" class="gmail_msg">-- <br class="gmail_msg">Adrian Zubarev<br class="gmail_msg">Sent with Airmail</div></div><br class="gmail_msg"><p class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006airmail_on" style="margin:15px 0px">Am 12. April 2017 um 21:58:37, Vladimir.S via swift-evolution (<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" style="color:rgb(65,131,196);background-color:inherit;text-decoration:none" class="gmail_msg" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>) schrieb:</p><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006clean_bq" style="margin:15px 0px"><span style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">this:</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">"""</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">one</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">two</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">"""</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">should be just the same as "one\ntwo\n"</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">If one wants some advanced tuning of line ends, he/she can use a backslash, for example</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">"""</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">one</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">two\</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">"""</span><br style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" class="gmail_msg"><span style="font-family:helvetica;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important" class="gmail_msg">should produce "one\ntwo"</span></div></span></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_quote gmail_msg"><blockquote class="gmail_quote gmail_msg" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><blockquote type="cite" class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg"><div class="gmail_msg m_-89139649707004719m_-3083377352508767006bloop_markdown" 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