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.error { color:#AA0000; }</style></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class="bloop_markdown"><p>By an alias what I really meant was some kind of a macro like <code>NS_SWIFT_NAME</code> for types and the module name.</p>
<p></p></div><div class="bloop_original_html"><style>body{font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px}</style><div id="bloop_customfont" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px; color: rgba(0,0,0,1.0); margin: 0px; line-height: auto;"><br></div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1490909205094727936" class="bloop_sign"><div style="font-family:helvetica,arial;font-size:13px">-- <br>Adrian Zubarev<br>Sent with Airmail</div></div> <br><p class="airmail_on">Am 30. März 2017 um 23:19:51, Louis D'hauwe (<a href="mailto:louisdhauwe@silverfox.be">louisdhauwe@silverfox.be</a>) schrieb:</p> <blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div></div><div>
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<div class="">Aliases would be one step towards my vision, but long
term I'd like to see a class like "UIViewController" to be imported
as "ViewController".</div>
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<div class="">On 30 Mar 2017, at 23:17, Adrian Zubarev <<a href="mailto:adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com" class="">adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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Typo: I actually meant<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><code style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, 'Liberation Mono', Courier, monospace; font-size: 10pt; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248); color: inherit; border: 1px solid rgb(234, 234, 234); margin: 0px 2px; padding: 0px 5px; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal; -webkit-margin-before: 0px;" class="">type-</code><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><code style="font-family: Menlo, Consolas, 'Liberation Mono', Courier, monospace; font-size: 10pt; border-top-left-radius: 3px; border-top-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-right-radius: 3px; border-bottom-left-radius: 3px; background-color: rgb(248, 248, 248); color: inherit; border: 1px solid rgb(234, 234, 234); margin: 0px 2px; padding: 0px 5px; word-break: normal; word-wrap: normal;" class="">module-alias</code>.</p>
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<p class="airmail_on" style="margin: 15px 0px;">Am 30. März 2017 um
23:16:14, Adrian Zubarev (<a href="mailto:adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;" class="">adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com</a>) schrieb:</p>
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<span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Something like a type- and type-alias when importing from Obj-C
to Swift?</span></p>
<p style="margin: 15px 0px;" class=""><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">That would be
reasonable, I’d guess.</span></p>
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<p class="airmail_on" style="margin: 15px 0px;"><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class="">Am 30. März 2017 um
23:12:30, Louis D'hauwe (<a href="mailto:louisdhauwe@silverfox.be" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;" class="">louisdhauwe@silverfox.be</a>) schrieb:</span></p>
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<div class=""><span style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;" class=""><span class="">I disagree, my proposal is not to rename
Apple frameworks. </span></span>
<div class=""><span class="">It is to improve the importing of
Objective-C designed frameworks to remove the unnecessary
prefixes.</span></div>
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<div class="" style="margin-top: 0px;"><span class="">On 30 Mar
2017, at 23:07, Adrian Zubarev <<a href="mailto:adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com" class="" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;">adrian.zubarev@devandartist.com</a>>
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<span style="-webkit-margin-before: 0px;" class="">The issue is,
this has nothing to do with swift evolution. You could file a bug
report for the Apple frameworks, but I doubt something this huge
will make it through.</span></p>
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<p class="airmail_on" style="margin: 15px 0px;"><span class="">Am
30. März 2017 um 23:03:52, Louis D'hauwe via swift-evolution
(<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>)
schrieb:</span></p>
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<span class=""><span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Apple frameworks contain
prefixes, carried over from Objective-C.</span></span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">These
exist to prevent class and method name collisions.</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Mattt
Thompson has a great article about this, containing the following
brilliant excerpt:</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">"Namespacing is the
preeminent bugbear of Objective-C. A cosmetic quirk with global
implications, the language’s lack of identifier containers remains
a source of prodigious quantities of caremad for armchair language
critics." (<a href="http://nshipster.com/namespacing/" class="" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;">http://nshipster.com/namespacing/</a>)</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Since
Swift can handle with these naming conflicts, wouldn't it make
sense to drop all framework prefixes in a Swift
environment?</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">A
classic example is UIKit, where all classes are prefixed with
"UI". </span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Code
example:</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
import UIKit</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
class FooViewController: UIViewController {</span></div>
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}</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Dropping the prefix would
simply lead to the following:</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
import UIKit</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
class FooViewController: ViewController {</span></div>
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}</span></div>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">Since
conflicts need to be handled by specifying the module name, the
following could be used if "ViewController" was also used by either
some, other than UIKit, imported framework or by a user defined
class:</span></div>
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<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
import UIKit</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></span></div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
class FooViewController: UIKit.ViewController {</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
}</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></span></div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">"UIKit.ViewController" is of
course quite longer than the current
"UIViewController".</span></div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">An
improvement could be to allow frameworks to specify an abbreviated
form.</span></div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">UIKit
could define "UI" as its abbreviation, making the following code
valid:</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></span></div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
import UI</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></span></div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
class FooViewController: UI.ViewController {</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">
}</span></div>
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<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;"><br class=""></span></div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">This
all seems to me like a natural continuation of <a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/9cf2685293108ea3efcbebb7ee6a8618b83d4a90/proposals/0086-drop-foundation-ns.md" class="" style="color: rgb(65, 131, 196); background-color: inherit; text-decoration: none;">SE-0086</a>.</span></div>
<div class="" style="margin: 0px; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Helvetica Neue'; color: rgb(69, 69, 69);">
<span class="" style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I do
realise this would be a major change, breaking pretty much every
Swift iOS, macOS, tvOS and watchOS project.</span></div>
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