<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:10 AM, Anton Zhilin &lt;<a href="mailto:antonyzhilin@gmail.com" class="">antonyzhilin@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="markdown-here-wrapper" style=""><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important" class="">How about this:</p>
<pre style="font-size:0.85em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;font-size:1em;line-height:1.2em;margin:1.2em 0px" class=""><code style="font-size:0.85em;font-family:Consolas,Inconsolata,Courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline;white-space:pre;overflow:auto;border-radius:3px;border:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0.5em 0.7em;display:block!important" class="">func bypassRethrows&lt;E: Error&gt;(_ f: () throws(E) -&gt; ()) throws(E) {
    if let e = (MyError() as Error) as? E {
        throw e
    }
}
</code></pre><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important" class="">I obviously can’t “test” this right now, but should work?</p><div class=""><br class=""></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>No because there are many types that conform to `Error` but are not `E` and the signature says you only throw `E`. &nbsp;You have no way to get an instance of `E` except by catching one thrown by `f` because `Error` does not have any initializers and you don’t have any visibility to anything that provides an `E` in any way except when `f` throws.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>I am hoping to have time to write up my analysis of generic rethrowing functions later today. &nbsp;There are some very interesting tradeoffs we need to make.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="markdown-here-wrapper" style=""><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em!important" class="">2017-02-22 3:42 GMT+03:00 Colin Barrett &lt;<a href="mailto:colin@springsandstruts.com" target="_blank" class="">colin@springsandstruts.com</a>&gt;:</p><div style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;" class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="markdown-here-exclude"><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><span class="gmail-"><div class="">On Sun, Feb 19, 2017 at 2:34 PM Anton Zhilin via swift-evolution &lt;<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail-m_-2809003803879918586gmail_msg"><div class="gmail-m_-2809003803879918586m_-5940626585113039258markdown-here-wrapper gmail-m_-2809003803879918586gmail_msg"><p style="margin:0px 0px 1.2em" class="gmail-m_-2809003803879918586gmail_msg">Now that I think about it, generic throws does not exactly cover <code style="font-size:0.85em;font-family:consolas,inconsolata,courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail-m_-2809003803879918586gmail_msg">rethrows</code>.<br class="gmail-m_-2809003803879918586gmail_msg">Firstly, <code style="font-size:0.85em;font-family:consolas,inconsolata,courier,monospace;margin:0px 0.15em;padding:0px 0.3em;white-space:pre-wrap;border:1px solid rgb(234,234,234);background-color:rgb(248,248,248);border-radius:3px;display:inline" class="gmail-m_-2809003803879918586gmail_msg">rethrows</code> has semantic information that function itself does not throw—it would be lost.</p></div></div></blockquote></span><div class="">That's not true. Parametric polymorphism guarantees that rethrows and polymorphic throw are the same.&nbsp;</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">For example, you can prove that as a consequence of parametricity that there is only one (pure) function in the of the set of all functions with the type ``forall A. A -&gt; A'' and furthermore that it is the identity function.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The intuition behind this is that you (meaning the fiction; imagine being a function!) cannot construct your own value of "A" since you don't have any information about what "A" is. The only place to get an "A" is from your argument.</div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div style="margin: 0px 0px 1.2em !important;" class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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