<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Feb 18, 2017, at 2:55 PM, Daniel Duan <<a href="mailto:daniel@duan.org" class="">daniel@duan.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class=""><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">On Feb 18, 2017, at 8:47 AM, Matthew Johnson via swift-evolution <<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><br class=""><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>• What is your evaluation of the proposal?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">+1. I am extremely confident that this is the right direction to go in.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I really like Brent’s idea for allowing us to distinguish the parameter label from what he calls the “internal name”. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In the value subtyping manifesto I recently posted I showed how we can assign a unique type to each enum case which is a subtype of the enum itself. The “internal name” Brent mentions would be the name of the stored property holding the value if that idea were introduced in the future. It has value beyond just documentation and autocompletion.</div><br class=""></div></div></div></blockquote><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Intriguing! I wish I had read this before I replied to Brent’s. Would it be better to include the internal name addition in the subtyping proposal? </div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Yes, I will update it to reflect this as soon as I have a chance. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Keep in mind that the value subtyping manifesto is not a proposal or proposal draft. It is intended to be a map of possible future proposals which would need to be specified in more detail. If you think any of the topics in that manifesto might be relevant to consider in Swift 4 now that we’re in phase 2, please reply to that thread. I’d love to hear your feedback!</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><blockquote type="cite" class="" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>• Is the problem being addressed significant enough to warrant a change to Swift?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Yes. Several years of experience with Swift are showing that there are many reasons for this to change.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>• Does this proposal fit well with the feel and direction of Swift?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Very much so.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>• If you have used other languages or libraries with a similar feature, how do you feel that this proposal compares to those?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have not. The approach Swift takes to compound names is unique in my experience and is a very nice design.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>• How much effort did you put into your review? A glance, a quick reading, or an in-depth study?<br class=""></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In-depth study.</div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class="" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div>More information about the Swift evolution process is available at <a href="https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md" class="">https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/process.md</a><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">Thank you,<br class=""><br class="">John McCall<br class="">Review Manager</div></div></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution-announce mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution-announce@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution-announce@swift.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution-announce" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution-announce</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">swift-evolution mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" class="">swift-evolution@swift.org</a><br class=""><a href="https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution" class="">https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution</a></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>