<div dir="ltr">Just in case: <a href="https://www.openradar.appspot.com/radar?id=5046886029328384">https://www.openradar.appspot.com/radar?id=5046886029328384</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Charles Srstka via swift-evolution <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org" target="_blank">swift-evolution@swift.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><span class=""><blockquote type="cite">On Feb 15, 2017, at 10:52 AM, Tony Parker <<a href="mailto:anthony.parker@apple.com" target="_blank">anthony.parker@apple.com</a>> wrote:<br></blockquote></span><div><blockquote type="cite"><br class="m_-6133649359423680967Apple-interchange-newline"><div><span style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;float:none;display:inline!important">Hi Charles,</span><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><span class=""><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Have you happened to file a radar for Foundation that I can look up (for both this and process)?</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">We are working hard on making sure that our API is right for Swift, and areas like this where we can make fairly trivial improvements are things that we can try to prioritize. As you say, the purpose of swift-corelibs-foundation is to present a unified API and prevent the need to fork. That means the best possible solution is to improve the API in Objective-C (where exceptions-as-control flow is wrong too) first, and then naturally flow that into Swift.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Thanks,</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">- Tony</div></span></div></blockquote></div><br><div>Honestly? I don’t remember. I feel like I would have sometime around 2005 or 2006 or so, since that’s probably about when this first started bothering me, but it’s been a decade, so my memory is hazy. I do know that in the meantime, “considered harmful”-type articles have been written about these classes, like this one from eight years ago:</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://mikeash.com/pyblog/friday-qa-2009-11-13-dangerous-cocoa-calls.html" target="_blank">https://mikeash.com/pyblog/<wbr>friday-qa-2009-11-13-<wbr>dangerous-cocoa-calls.html</a></div><div><br></div><div>If you think it will actually prompt someone to change this, I’d be happy to write up a new one, although I figure it would almost certainly just get flagged as a duplicate.</div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Charles</div><div><br></div></font></span></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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